Franklin's Garage to Stage
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All right, well, hello and welcome to Franklin's Garage to Stage. My name is Dana Franklin. I'm actually the co-host of this show, but I'm taking over for my brother, rob Franklin, who's just kind of hanging out right now, and I'll get him going here in a second. But I'd like to say thank you for listening to us on our previous episodes. I want to stress that we are our own podcast. We do everything ourselves. We produce it. We are our own podcast. We do everything ourselves. We produce it. We do all the research.
Speaker 1:We do all the recording All ourselves, so anybody that wants to contribute and help us out with that would be greatly appreciated. I want to throw a few thank yous out there for new listeners we've got. We are now in 10 countries. I'd like to thank people in Germany. We're getting a lot of hits from there. We've got some new ones in Australia, the UK, lebanon, I think we're on, I mean all over Bangladesh.
Speaker 1:We appreciate the word being spread out there and it really helps us out. In the next few weeks, we're actually going to be introducing you, we're going to do some new merchandise, we're going to do some giveaways with T-shirts, sweatshirts, coffee mugs, stuff with our logo imprinted on there. So please keep the comments coming to us. You can see us on Spotify, facebook, all the social media sites we're on, so please leave comments and emails. Like I said, we're just two brothers throwing out shit about music and sex, drugs and rock and roll, so let us know all your comments, good and bad. We listen to everything. And yeah, on to you, rob. What do you got to say about all that?
Speaker 2:Well, we don't really need titles, but I guess co-host uh, rob wardrums, franklin and I want to welcome everybody to like season two, the first episode, and happy 2025 everybody. I remember back in the day thinking I'd never even make it to this number. You know, when you're a kid it's like, oh, I'm never gonna see that number. But thank god, thank god it, you know, it's come to fruition anyway. Welcome everybody. And uh, basically what we're going to talk about today is, uh, well, I'm going forward is okay, you've already done a couple shows.
Speaker 2:Now we're going to like start redefining, like our set list, talk with each other about the do's and don'ts of crowd interaction, uh, stage presence, uh the things you've learned from the bar owners and how to apply it to like your next shows and then getting the right crowds to your shows. You know, you know working social media to make sure you got the right crowds. You know, don't just say you're like metal. I mean you got to kind of redefine it now, because it's so many different like genres of metal. You kind of got it. Yeah, I mean somebody may want to come out and see, like you know, growling kind of metal and you're doing like more melodic kind of shit. So you really want to make sure that you're presenting yourself to what you really fucking are you?
Speaker 1:know, yeah, no shit on that, because you know it's like I don't want to go to a bar and somebody's saying that they play rock and roll or classic rock and all of a sudden you're hearing people playing country or other kind of shit. I mean just to say we are more rock, metal-orientated guys. But all of this advice and stuff applies to whether you're country, pop, top 40, dance, you know, whatever kind of music you're doing, we appreciate it all and we know you know artists as a general, musicians, the dedication it takes for you to. You know get your craft going and get the band going. So you know nothing personal if I talk shit about country or something else, but not my cup of tea. But you know, like Rob was saying, you've really to know what kind of crowd you're playing to and what kind of crowd you want to come see you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And another thing I'd like to do in this season is we've talked about garage to stage and the process, and basically Dana and I are doing the same thing right now. I mean, we've in the past, done all this, but now we're kind of like starting all over again, which is really cool. I mean, you know, we both kind of took a hiatus from music for a while, but now we're we're to the point where we're auditioning and basically starting a new, a new project. So we want to kind of keep you updated on on how we're doing as well and you know the kind of steps we're taking and, and you know, just kind of keep you up to date on what we're doing, if that's cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a it's. It's fun to start the process all over.
Speaker 2:It is, it really is, it's real cool.
Speaker 1:I forgot all the. You know the, the fun that goes along with, you know, auditioning new people. You know the nervous energy you get from. You know I'm going to be good enough for this guy. Or you know, is this guy going to suck compared to us? Or you know just the stuff that you don't know and you know just for all you listeners out there to know. You know we follow our own advice of what we're telling you.
Speaker 1:It's you know with this. You know we actually auditioned a new guitar player yesterday and instead of us just saying, okay, here, show up, here, play a couple songs and whatever it's, you know I actually picked the guy up and we had about a half-hour drive to the practice place so I got a chance to get to really, you know. Know this guy a little bit more personally. You know, before we just dropped on our instruments to see it's like, you know, number one, are we going to even gel with this person before we even? You know you might be a great guitar player, but if I don't like you, you don't like me, that makes no difference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was really cool of you.
Speaker 2:What's that? I said that was really cool of you. That was a good way to kick it off. Oh yeah, and during the audition we did all those things that we suggested too. We made sure he's not like a raging alcoholic and didn't show up with a Jack you know guzzling a Jack Daniel bottle or you know doing lines on his amp or anything like that. So we kind of like you know, we talked about that, talked about you know directions and you know. So we did all those things that we had like suggested on previous episodes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I had a backup plan. If I you know this guy, if I saw him as being a total crazy lunatic or something, I was just going to kind of drive around the block, say, okay, you know, the storage place is right around the corner, hop out real quick, and I gotta hit. You know, I was just gonna fucking take off and leave him there. I mean, I had all this, all this shit with me, so he didn't know where I live. You know, it's like a good backup plan.
Speaker 2:But yeah, he turned out to be a pretty cool dude, so yeah, he did, yeah, and, like we said to each other, it's like, okay, he's worth another listen. So basically what that means is we've got another audition next week, cause you know what's. One of the things we talked about them with them was how are you, you know, playing with another guitarist? I mean, are you cool with sharing leads, or so you know, we talked about all that too and, and hopefully this this next guy comes on board is just as cool and prepared, because this guy did show up. I mean, we gave a couple you know, song suggestions and he listened to them and he was pretty prepared. I thought.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean yeah, for just you know, like I said, some of the songs that we gave him were ones that most people don't, they don't randomly know. I mean they're, you know, I wouldn't say obscure songs, but they're, you know, I wouldn't say obscure songs, but they're, you know, from a band that's not real well known and it's definitely a song that's our style. So we want to see you know how he played that and yeah, for it being such a song that he's probably never heard of, he definitely pulled it off pretty good.
Speaker 2:I was pretty impressed yeah, actually first attempt through, we pretty much kind of nailed it, so I was, yeah, I was pretty happy at all for any I know so changes, or yeah, it was nice it was, it was a pleasant surprise yeah, so that just showed his dedication too. I mean he wanted to make sure, you know, he didn't show up and just like know the verse. I mean he pretty much knew the structure and I thought that was hella cool yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:So when we're talking about playing in front of the right crowd and making sure the right crowd is there, if you're playing at a bar, you never know who's going to walk in and you can't control that. But what you can control is the friends or family that you have come in that you said, hey, we're playing so-and-so this weekend. Have them bring friends of the like you know the same like, you know they you. You tell them it's like hey, we play stuff that's like black Sabbath or whatever kind of stuff you're playing. And you'll tell your friends like hey, you know, if you're going to mention this to your friends, make sure they're cool with that kind of music.
Speaker 2:And make sure they're cute. If you're going to bring them, you know, if they're females, if you're going to bring them, you know, if they're females.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, all the guys in the band are definitely going to want some eye candy out in the crowd.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you know, same going.
Speaker 1:If you've got a female there, it's like you know they don't want to look to ugly guys there. It's like you know, bring your good-looking friends. But you know, make sure you just have a crowd that you can control that is coming to see what you play or the kind of style and genre that you're into, just so you don't have people walking out, like we mentioned before. You know, walking into a bar and getting something not what you expected, I mean, if I walked into a bar and saw something like rap, I'm not a big fan of rap, you know, sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me either.
Speaker 1:Rap guys out there. But you know, first thing I would do is I would walk out and go find another bar that had something more to my style okay so try to try to control what you have coming in.
Speaker 1:You know to your, to your events, and you know you've got to promote your own stuff too. It's like you know. I know social media is a big thing now. Back in our day we did flyers and you know phone calls and you know more door-to-door stuff. Now you can do everything on social media and speaking of them. Yeah, let the social media, you know, do the same thing, say, hey, we played this like this, this style music.
Speaker 2:You know, come check us out at blah blah blah, you know, bring your friends and stuff, and speaking of which, yeah, speaking of which I mean, if you've already done a couple shows, make sure your first couple shows you've got somebody out there with a you know good iphone or some kind of recording device to get those recorded so you can get them on social media. Plus. I'm 90 sure that you know most bar owners gonna want to like see how you represent yourself on stage too. So yeah, so definitely get you know one of your two of your best songs and make sure there's somebody out there recording that shit for you yeah, you know, I mean nowadays iphones record stuff oh, I know, they're just as good as any recordings we were doing back in the day with.
Speaker 2:You know if I can reel the reel and tapes and all this old-fashioned shit that we used to do, but in mono hell, you can make a movie on iphone, so it's like you know yeah, all our old shit's like in mono, so it's it's hard to even like edit it to make it sound like halfway cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know those old cassettes, you know they start to wear out and yeah it's transferred before it's too late.
Speaker 1:You know you got that whole charlie brown sound thing coming out of it. Yeah, not a good thing, um, but yeah, like you said before, rob, you know you know bar owners they're gonna want to see. You know what have you said before, Rob. You know bar owners they're going to want to see. You know what have you done before. Where have you played? You know, if you're just starting out, you know that's a tough one. You're going to have to actually physically go talk to bar owners yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to sell yourself, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, don't be one of those people that are, like you know, calling 20, 30 different bar owners. Go see them personally, shake their hand and say hey, this is who I am, this is what I'm about. You know, we are just starting out, but here's a couple of clips from our first or second show that we've done.
Speaker 2:I mean, they'll respect that and they'll definitely appreciate that more than a phone call from somebody they don't know especially if you get a good shot of a big crowd out there, like you know, looking excited about what you're doing. That would be, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know that'd be a good thing. You know, like I know we were going to say you know, mention today's, you know stage presence, you'll let let people know. In the crowd it's like, hey, we're recording some of the stuff for, uh, you know, for a media site and you know, let let the let the people that are there watching you good idea good idea. Let them go crazy for you, because that'll just help you promote yourself put a good clap.
Speaker 2:Uh sound effect in the background.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just kidding you know auto tune and all the other things. I'm not a huge fan if you can't play the sheet yourself.
Speaker 2:Don't play it exactly, exactly this is what I am and I you know.
Speaker 1:I know everybody's got their own different views on it, but it's like you know if you can't sing, then don't. Don't use a machine to help you sound like something you're not exactly.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Another big thing like what you were just talking about is like crowd interaction. I mean I've seen a lot of bands like back in the day I'd see these bands they like come into a club, do their little set and leave and never like even interact with the crowd whatsoever. I mean, to me that's just. I mean I know it was kind of like the attitude you kind of had to have. But in my opinion, I mean, when you're like taking a break in between sets or something like stroll around, say hey, how you doing you know, hey, you're liking the sound and you know shit, like that, because that not only gives you a good, you know feedback, but it's showing that you like care about the people that showed up and, plus, it can help you with your set list when you're redefining it. It's like you know what sounded good to you, what didn't you know. Give me your opinion. You know. Those kind of things are, you know help.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you can still have the attitude and interact with the crowd. I mean, you know, I know back in the day, you know everybody talks about, you know the 80s and the 90s, but the 80s were more of a wild from what I see out there now. The 80s were definitely a fit the description of the sex drugs and rock and roll.
Speaker 1:I mean, you had your Motley Crue's and your Guns N' Roses, the artists that were very flamboyant and crazy. But that publicity not only helped them, but you know, the fans love that shit too. So it's like you know, you can still have the attitude and and and do all that, but still be cool to the crowds, and the crowds can be like wow, these guys are bad-asses, but they'll still come off the stage and talk to me, or say hey thanks for coming by and shit. I mean, it's like that goes a long way.
Speaker 2:No, it really does, really does. And speaking of stage presence, I mean I firmly believe in like, I mean put on a show, I mean like, for as a drummer, I, like you know, twirl my sticks, don't do exaggerated movements, you know, just make.
Speaker 1:Make it a show People want to just they don't have the energy, they're not going to show you the energy back yeah, I mean if you're standing there, you know, just doing your little thing, even if you're a good, good musician, if you're not emphasizing the energy that you're having on stage and stuff, the crowd's going to be like, okay, well, these guys are boring. Then you're going to find that first set. When you stop, come back in the second set, you're going to have half your crowd gone. Yeah, I'm a firm believer in even being a little bit older in age. Now, next time I get on stage I'm going to be running around.
Speaker 2:Oh, you always did. Anyway, man, you've always had really good stage presence.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's like you said give them shows. The funny thing is me and my son, probably about a year ago, went and saw this band that I've never heard of, didn't know what to expect, by the name of Avatar. They're like from sweden or some somewhere like that um, kind of more on the death metal, but they were pretty melodic and they put on such a good show it was. I mean, I was even if I didn't like their music. I would have gone and see them again just for their show I mean, it was just, it was absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1:it was like you know, you were watching like a movie, not only with good music, but you were watching a presentation and it was. It was amazing. I mean, you know, I talk about this band other people now because of the show they put on, and normally I've never. If I were to just heard them on Spotify or something, I wouldn't talk so enthusiastically about this band, but because of the show that they put on I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the way I feel about one of my favorite bands, I mean performance-wise, it's Armored Saint. I mean I've seen tons of huge acts but they put on such a cool, flawless show. I mean I told everybody about it. It's like the best show I've ever seen is Armored Saint. Yeah, I'm a little jealous because our cousin just went and saw them a little while ago. Yeah, and they're still. They're still doing it, man, still rocking it man yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So, speaking of cousins, I got something I want to throw out here real quick as we mentioned. We mentioned on our other show about our our cousin bruce, who's in well, the doom metal band trouble that's you know the pretty big name out there, especially overseas, but they, I just found out, are doing what is probably the coolest show ever.
Speaker 2:Oh, I just heard about that too.
Speaker 1:Did you see that? I just saw it yesterday and I was telling Robin, my wife, about it. I was like I've got to go to this show, even though it's coming up and I can't afford it. But next year that is my goal and it's called 70,000 Tons of Metal. It's basically a cruise ship for five days. They're going from Miami to, I think, Jamaica. Yeah, yeah. And they've got 64 or 65 metal bands playing nonstop for five days.
Speaker 2:Man, that's a lot of musicians.
Speaker 1:What the hell I mean?
Speaker 2:that's like paradise right there. Oh yeah, that'd be hella cool. I would love to do that.
Speaker 1:So I got on the website and looked at it and these bands do just like what we said In between, when they're not playing and stuff, they're out there eating with the people that have bought tickets. Nice, I mean they are interacting with the crowd. I mean they're on a ship, they can't go anywhere, yeah, and they love doing it because it gets their name out a little bit more.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, I would love to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, wouldn't that be? That would just be awesome. But most of these bands there are some that are real big name, but most of them are just bands that are out there playing, that are really good and might not have the huge name and doing stadium shows, but have the huge name and doing stadium shows, but you know they're getting out there doing their shit with the crowd.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wish we would have had our shit together sooner. Man, I've been cool to book that I couldn't even imagine. How they wouldn't even have to pay me.
Speaker 1:I mean, I do that shit for free it's like you know, he's put me on the cruise, feed me and I'm good oh yeah no shit, okay, so that was my throw out for the uncle.
Speaker 2:Cool, cool. Yeah, we definitely got to get him on this show. We haven't really tried to do that yet, but we definitely need to try and get him on the show.
Speaker 1:Oh, definitely.
Speaker 2:So, speaking of our progress, you threw it out there earlier that we're in a shed and kind of the reason we're doing that. We tried the house thing, but unfortunately both Dana and I live too close to neighbors and it's not really something we could do, so we ended up.
Speaker 1:We did try, though. Well, we did try, yeah.
Speaker 2:So what we ended up doing was we looked for the rehearsal spots, but there's none close to where we're at with the fees that we wanted to pay, so we ended up with a climate controlled. It's a good size shed, it's climate controlled and there's security and insurance and all that, so it's working out really well. And you would think, with being metal sheds, it would be a lot of ambient noise that you didn't want, but it's actually not too terrible, to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you know we've done a couple things, you know hung up a couple blankets and I'd like to, you know, go a little bit step further and get some of the noise-blocking styrofoam stuff, and we'll do that. But yeah, it's a pretty good spot for right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's kind of like you know, we wanted to include our progress. That's kind of that's the way we're proceeding. So, like I said, every episode we'll update you and let you know how you're going, how it's going, like Dana said, we've already auditioned one guy. He's a pretty cool guy and we've invited him back. So next episode we'll let you know how it goes with the second guitar player and, uh, my personal goal is to be out there again by spring, because for me it's been too long. I mean, I haven't been on stage for a little bit now and got the it's been even longer for me, so I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1:I am, I'm excited to you know, not only get on stage again, but to have my son in the crowd, who's never seen me play live yeah, I mean me as well. Same same situation yeah, to me that would just be that, that's, that's a definite goal of mine, because before I die I want to play a live show, you know, in front of my son, oh, actually even my wife, I mean.
Speaker 1:So I got married after we were doing all that stuff. I mean sure she's seen videos and and heard stuff of us doing, but she's actually never seen me play live, you know, with, with the, the whole band.
Speaker 2:It'd be a whole new honeymoon after that, buddy. It'd be a whole new honeymoon after that after she sees the bass god that you are All right, man. Well, let's, do you know what?
Speaker 1:we're talking about oh shit, is it that time? Oh shit it is.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's that time. Special segment. This is where we talk about something that's either embarrassing or something bad, or something funny or just something that's happened to you while playing live. What do you?
Speaker 1:got okay. Well, you know, mine kind of falls on that hoe um the sex, drugs and rock and roll of music, of what it was like in the 80s and 90s when we really started hitting our stride. This was before I got married, so my wife knows all about our escapades, so I'm not getting in any trouble for this. This happened actually on our very first show that we played. I've got to go back. Our first show was actually without a singer we played.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we played a party, for it was a work party of a place that I was working at. He wanted to put on I think it was a Christmas party and Hooters, and he's like you're in a band. I kept saying, yeah, we're actually really good and really tight. We just haven't found the right singer yet. And he's like, well, you know we're throwing this Christmas party. Why don't you guys come out and play for a couple hours? And I'm like, shit, cool, yeah, that'd be fun. So we did and, like I said this or before, I even met my wife and so, of course, you know, we got a lot of honeys out there in the crowd and you know we're playing, doing our stuff. And you know, a couple of them that I worked with were like God, you guys are awesome. I love this whole rock and roll thing. One of them just happened to really enjoy it and it's like you know that was hot and sexy and I want to go home with you.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh, hell yeah I love this rock and roll atmosphere. This is what I want to do. I mean, you know. So not only was I getting the the, the emotions from the crowd because everybody was loving it and, you know, getting the whole party atmosphere and they said everybody's clapping and loving it, and then, you know, had this sexy girl want to go home with me.
Speaker 2:It's like what a day. It was a perfect night perfect night. Oh, very cool, all right. Well, mine's kind of a scary one. Um. I don't know if you remember this or not, but we played this halloween gig, um, at a place where I actually had my wedding reception. I can't remember the name of the place it's on South Virginia, close to where we used to live, actually.
Speaker 1:Garfields.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I think it was called Garfields.
Speaker 2:Anyway, at this point we had been playing for a while, we had accumulated a lot of equipment. We used the U-Haul for shows. This particular show we had parked in the parking lot and all that. We went in, checked out you know what was going on with the club and all that and I and then kind of went back and kind of used it like as a backstage thing.
Speaker 2:We're kind of hanging out drinking beers and all that and then fucking locked my keys in the truck when we shut it and I had the key to the lock so I couldn't get back in to get our equipment and we had like a it was like a one of these things where a band played before us and so it was like a half an hour before we had to set up. So I'm thinking, oh fuck, what are we gonna do? So I can't remember if one of the band guys drove to my house to get the key or if I called my wife at the time to bring the key, but but it was like I mean down to the wire getting our equipment out to go into play. Then I was like nervous as shit. It's like cause this was I mean, this was a pretty big show was put on by Z rock and it was a huge crowd. It's like, oh fuck. I just remember being so scared that we weren't going to be able to play on time.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, that is funny. I do remember that and I think it was your wife at the time that went and had to rush her. I think she was at home or on the way coming to the show and you're like you know, she turned around and yeah.
Speaker 2:Thank God I had the second key to that lock.
Speaker 1:Yes, I remember vaguely thinking like thinking there's no way we're going to get set up and be able to pull this off in time. We're going to be fashionably late.
Speaker 2:Okay, Dana, what's next?
Speaker 1:Well, okay, so you've done a couple of shows and you're finding your groove as far as what you're going to do on stage now and how you want to present yourself. You've talked about how you guys are going to interact with each other on stage, and if one of you guys is running around, you want to make sure you're not smashing into each other. You're figuring out what you're doing as a group on stage so you look professional and not like you're a novice doing this.
Speaker 1:Right, cool not like you're a novice doing this, right cool, you know. So now that you're talking to bar owners and stuff, you know you should really have some sort of contract, or you know. I guess you can even do it on a phone now, because you know if you're recording it on a phone, but something, some kind of legal binding thing saying you know who's responsible for the equipment in case of a fire, you know, in case of theft or flood or any kind of crazy shit.
Speaker 1:It's like, who's responsible for that? And, of course, pay. How are you getting paid? Are you getting a percentage of the bar, like?
Speaker 1:they used to do back in the day. I'm not sure if that's, are you charging people at the door to get in? Are you going to get a percentage of that, or is that all yours, or are you just going to get a flat fee? I mean, you know you don't want to find out afterwards where it's like okay, well, we kind of had a crowd, but not that much, so here you're getting 50 bucks where you're like yeah you know well, we discussed this.
Speaker 1:You know, you just want to make sure that there's no surprises when it comes to pay. I mean, you know, at this point, you know, I know a lot of guys are out there even paying or playing for free just to get their name out there. You know, just starting out.
Speaker 2:We've done that before as well. We've actually paid to play. You know, that used to be a thing too. I'm not going to do that again, but yeah, that used to be a thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I'm not opposed to going out there the first couple times and not expecting a whole lot of money.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, of course, If you're good at what you're doing and you're bringing in a lot of people, you know you should get part of that. I mean, it's the bar owners. They're getting the money from the alcohol they're drinking or whatever type of place that you're in. So you know it's only fair you get it if you're. If they're busier than normal because of you being there, you should definitely get your cut. Oh yeah, exactly I like.
Speaker 2:I like the idea of having a set fee, just in case you know you do have the bad night.
Speaker 1:Nobody shows up and the percentage of the bar till people are staying at home because it's snowing or some kind of?
Speaker 2:yeah, and you know, percentage of the bar till is always cool, doesn't that be huge, like you know, one or two percent, and then, uh, if you so decide to have a door person, you can include that as well, but if you have at least a minimum set fee, I I think that's the optimal way to go. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know the couple of times that you know in the last couple of months that I've gone out and spent the small bars. You know most of these are acoustic sets or duels that are playing, you know, not full bands, but a lot of what I've noticed is going out there now and I'm seeing it even on some of the social media. Stuff I'm looking at is people are throwing out tip jars, which I don't know how I feel about that yeah, I'm not sure I feel about that either, but yeah, I I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, you know, for you guys that are out there doing it, please leave us a comment.
Speaker 1:Let let you let us know if it's working for you, what you think about it, because my personal thing is, you know, tip tip jar is like you're asking for handouts, because you suck.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's why, yeah, I agree, not necessarily that you suck, but it's just. Yeah, I don't agree with that either. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I mean, if that's what's going on out there now people, please comment, tell us you know, because, like I said, this is kind of a whole new era right now and I know things are different in bars and stuff. So let us know what you're experiencing and how it's all happening out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like Dana said, please give us your feedback. I know we've asked this on every episode, but, like Dana said earlier, we do the whole thing here. We do the recording, the editing and the uploading it to the site that we use to publish it, and it's not only time-cons consuming but there's some costs involved, so any sponsorship or help would be highly appreciated. And also, like Dana said, you know, please give us your feedback. And then you know these other countries that are been listening. Please let us know. You know, kind of like what happens in your neck of the woods. And, speaking of Germany, we've got like 19 listeners there now, which isn't a huge amount, but I mean it just started. And uh, we're actually from Germany, our grandparents and mother from. I was trying to think of the name of the village, but I can't. We neither one of us could remember what it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, our next episode. I'll try to dial that down and find out where that is, because I'm curious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it'd be cool to hear from you guys too, since you know we're from the same neck of the woods.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know, like I mentioned in the beginning, you know, I love the fact that we're in even other countries that you know. I never thought that. You know, like Pakistan, afghanistan, I mean some countries that I really didn't even figure on us somehow getting out there and we are. I mean, it's a great thing.
Speaker 2:It is it really is?
Speaker 1:Please spread the word. If you're in one of these countries, let your friends and families and everybody know so we can grow in all these countries. I mean, if we've got to start doing some kind of foreign translation on these things, I mean we'll figure that out too.
Speaker 2:We will, we will, and please, like we said, please, you know, let us know what's going on here. If you want to be a guest, you know, shoot us your information. We'd love to hear from you. We really would.
Speaker 1:That's actually. You just reminded me. That's one thing I kind of want to throw out there. You know, with these next episodes coming up, I mean we'd love to hear from if there's any producers out there, sound engineers even if you're a sound guy for a local band, you know, give us, give us a holler Cause. We'd like to. You know, we'd like to get insights from some of your other professional people outside of just the musicians making the music. I mean there's a lot of stuff that goes on in the background that you know we'd love to hear from those people too. I mean, if you're a roadie for some big band, give us a call. We'd love to hear what, what your life is all about.
Speaker 2:And, like we said earlier, I mean we're we're basically starting this whole process over again, like probably a lot of you are, so any help we'd appreciate as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's like I said before. We're we're just two, two brothers, you know, talking. Yeah, like I said before, we're just two brothers talking about music and trying to help all of you guys out there that are going through the same thing. So anytime you see or listen to our podcast, there's a little button up there that says support, please help us out. Or if you know anybody that's got some extra money hanging around, yeah, it's as little as $3 to be a sponsor.
Speaker 2:So, yep, help us out a sponsor. So, uh, yep, help us out yeah that would.
Speaker 1:That would help us put food on the table. I mean no, just kidding, but at least help us keep this podcast going, which you know we want to do for other musicians and you know we enjoy doing this and you know we love the fact that. You know we're in the thousands of downloads now, so there's people out there listening and you know we appreciate that oh, we sure, do we really?
Speaker 1:really do spread this out to as many people as we can, and you want to help people and it's. You know it's a fun thing. We love talking about music, so you know, any kind of little money to help support us would be greatly appreciated we're not begging, just asking yeah not yet all right.
Speaker 2:Well, dana, in closing, what do you want to say to all these fine folks that are listening to us?
Speaker 1:You know, fucking thank you so much just for tuning in. You know we do this about once every two weeks and you know I'm thinking at some point. You know we're going to make this even more, maybe even once a week. You know what? Just thank you very much for you know we've been doing this I think it's three months now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's gotten bigger sooner than I thought it would.
Speaker 2:Me too. Me too, we appreciate it very much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just really energized about it and you know we've got a new year going and a lot of new material and new guests and stuff we want to throw at you and advice.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you said that we do have a couple of guests lined up.
Speaker 1:So you'll be hearing about those pretty quickly here too. Yeah yeah, good things in the works, and it's all thanks to you guys that are listening and helping out. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2:All right, everybody, keep rocking and keep listening and thank you very much and happy 2025.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, Bring in the new year listening to some good music.
Speaker 2:There you go, man. All right, you guys, bye Later.
