Backstage with Ego Trip: The UK's Rising Grunge Band

When four musicians with a shared passion for grunge and heavy guitar-driven rock come together, something electric happens. That's exactly what we discovered when UK band Ego Trip joined us on Franklin's Garage to Stage podcast.

Beginning at a brewery open mic night when guitarist Bean and vocalist Will decided they needed a band name rather than having their individual names written on the board, Ego Trip has evolved into a powerhouse of modern grunge with distinctive flair. Their performances are thoughtfully crafted experiences - starting fast and bright, building to crushing heaviness in the middle, then easing listeners back out with lightness by the end.

What struck me most during our conversation was the band's genuine camaraderie and collaborative spirit. While they jokingly call their dynamic a "dictatorship," it's clear that each member brings unique contributions that elevate their sound. From Ellis's foundation-building drum beats to Will's powerful vocals, Bean's riff-crafting abilities, and Daz's complementary bass lines, Ego Trip represents true musical partnership.

The band shared candid stories about their journey - from embarrassing on-stage moments (like losing vocal capabilities during their entire set or accidentally erasing amp presets mid-performance) to the thrill of playing Kendall Calling festival. They're currently preparing to release their first album recorded at Rex Studio in Carlisle and embarking on their next tour leg across the UK.

For fellow musicians, Ego Trip offers this wisdom: "The best time to take the leap is yesterday. If you wait to feel ready, you never will." Their parting message to fans and listeners emphasized supporting local music scenes - attending sparsely-populated shows, buying that slightly overpriced pint, and simply showing appreciation to performers who put their hearts on stage. Check out Ego Trip wherever you stream music and catch their high-energy live shows if you're in the UK!

Chapters

• 0:56 Meet Ego Trip from the UK
• 4:52 Band Origins and Musical Style
• 10:40 Writing Process and Influences
• 17:26 The Band Dynamic and Live Performance
• 24:27 Embarrassing On-Stage Moments
• 30:07 Upcoming Shows and Album Release
• 34:01 Advice for Aspiring Musicians

Transcript

Rob: 0:28

Hi, welcome to Franklin's Garage to Stage podcast. My name is Rob Wardrums Franklin and my co-host is Dana Thunderbase Franklin.

Dana: 0:38

How are you guys all doing today? Okay, today with us we have a special guest, a band all the way from the United Kingdom. It goes by the name of Ego Trip. How are you guys doing?

Rob: 0:56

Thank you. We're good. Good name of ego trip how you guys doing. If we could get you guys to introduce yourself individually. You really appreciate it in us. In any order, you want nice to meet you next anybody? Going on now yeah, so.

Beinn: 1:25

I'm a guitarist. I've got a weirdly spelt name. I like moldy cheese.

Daz: 1:29

You've read my bio and yeah, I'm Daz and I've been a permanent fill-in bass player for a while, permanent fill-in.

Rob: 1:39

I like that all right.

Dana: 1:41

So for anybody that's you know, never heard you guys before or is trying to figure out who you are, um, so this one I will okay bean. This is a question for you and you. You know, maybe other everybody else in the band can can answer this too, but nobody's ever seen you. How do you describe yourself as a band for somebody that's never heard you guys before? Well, how would you describe yourself?

Beinn: 2:08

Um, that's going to be a difficult question to answer. I would say say well, first and foremost through a grunge band, but we use the term grunge just as kind of an umbrella term, just because there's so many things that you could call grunge, whereas otherwise, if you would say you were a groove metal band, you're picking a very, a very definite category. We have quite a wide range of tunes. To be fair, we draw influences from, obviously, like make grunge artists, metal, all kinds of rock, pretty much anything guitar-driven.

Will: 2:41

Basically, we've drawn influence from yeah, basically it's all like something heavy or something with soul that we take inspiration from always. Really.

Rob: 2:54

And how would you guys describe your show to somebody that hadn't seen you before? Describe basically from when you set up to break down what happens during your show.

Ellis: 3:06

The show is electric. We start fast and bright and then get heavier towards the middle. After everyone's had enough of feeling crushed under all the heavy rifts, we lighten it up again and ease everyone. I think it's easy to get something a bit of a walk out and kind of have to tuck in the head.

Will: 3:28

For the rest of it, yeah, we like to go in a little bit calm and then give them a real punch and scare them a little bit. Like this is what we really are.

Rob: 3:39

I like it Well. We believe in starting strong and ending strong. You guys kind of do your set list like that Take your best material to begin with and then close out with something you know is going to kick ass.

Will: 3:54

Oh yeah, we always close with something strong, like always.

Dana: 4:00

So do you guys? Is it mostly, do you do covers, or is it all originals?

Beinn: 4:08

I think we're aiming for all originals. We throw in some covers, mainly as almost kind of filler material, but also it sort of shows our influences. We cover things like Alice in Chains. We do Black by Pearl Jam quite frequently because people like it. We do kind of crowd pleasers in kind of the middle of the set and then we ease out. We definitely start and finish with originals.

Dana: 4:35

That's one thing we've always suggested with cover bands like you know what and with your best song that you wrote, and to let everybody know what you're all about. So, going on that with the originals that you guys do, who? Is there one main person in the band that does the writing, or is it a kind of a collaboration with all of you guys?

Will: 4:57

well, at first it was just me and being the guitarist, but then we we need we didn't need more help, but we wanted more and we wanted more creativity to come into the, into the group. And that's when we uh, we picked up ellis and ellis started throwing in idea left and right. Like he's, he's always got something new brewing up there. So, like we do, we do, we all come together and we all, we all make it gel these days. So it's, it's everyone, it's everyone cool.

Rob: 5:28

How did you all get together? I mean, what was the process for? I mean, was it like getting together on social media ads in the paper? I mean, how'd you all get together? I mean what was the process for? I mean, was it getting together on social media ads in the paper? I mean, how did you all get together?

Beinn: 5:39

I had a job in a brewery and there was an open mic going on. Basically, one of the guys who worked there owned a pub and I was quite interested in going. I was just going to take like an acoustic guitar but then basically on the way I kind of thought I can't sing, I need to sing and I already knew Will at the time. We were quite good friends. So Will came along and we also got a drummer. It's not the same drummer, but we brought him along and we just kind of cruised.

Beinn: 6:09

I was a free piece for quite a while after that and started making me and Will started writing songs. I'd write the riffs, he'd write the lyrics, and we'd done that for a while until we bought on Ellis. He's come along with quite a lot of things you know like, initially just contributions to structure and things like that, but again, that's stuff that we all need. But then, yeah, over time, bringing ellis on, he started coming up with, you know, ideas for beats and he's been the foundation for some of our songs, actually nice um. And then when we brought in daz, daz made some quite useful contributions on the bass um, like a lot of the bass riffs. Obviously I kind of show him the kind of root of what's on the guitar and then he'll come up with something that goes around it instead of copies it, and I think that's that's quite good and that's basically how we've been since.

Will: 7:00

Daz was fundamental to one of our biggest gigs as well. Yeah, like without Daz we wouldn't have been able to play Kendall Colin, which which was one of the biggest opportunities we have ever been given as as's a band in our really early stages three years in getting off of a stage. Part at Kendall Column was mental, and that saved us on that one.

Dana: 7:24

Nice, okay, so main influences for each one of you. Well, I guess my first question would be at what age did you figure out that music is what you wanted to do? Was it, you know first concert you went to, or something mom and dad were jamming to at the house? I mean, how did you get into this world of music?

Rob: 7:44

still, my question Ellis, start with you. Go ahead, Ellis.

Ellis: 7:55

Cool. For me, this is what I wanted to do for the recent, I would say only in the last year or two. For me, drumming was more of a hobby. I had an electronic drum that I was trying to learn initially.

Rob: 8:12

Hey, had an electronic drum kit in my house initially. Hey, if you don't mind, could you turn up your volume, just a hair.

Ellis: 8:17

Sure.

Rob: 8:18

Thank you I was just praying.

Ellis: 8:19

How about that?

Rob: 8:20

There you go, there you go yeah, for me.

Ellis: 8:24

I was just jamming in on an electronic drum kit for a while there. This was a hobby around the house and I've always quite liked live concert videos on YouTube. A lot of metallic arrayed. Yeah, those guys just came with weight and power, maybe not always very technical. That seemed to work for me and that's what I imitated Flavioville. But yeah, the Journey of Ego trip actually came full circle. I think, seeing them the first time, they simply livened up the team. It was kind of instrumental. It's come full circle in a funny way.

Ellis: 9:08

I saw their new songs, new riffs, new era of grunge, and that made me go home in a way. I wasn't thinking about being in the band at that point, but I was thinking and telling everyone I've just seen these guys downtown and they're like the next generation of grunge and these song ideas. They're like the next generation of grunge and these song ideas like. They're like modern but like within nostalgia at the same time. Um, so that made me play more than feel creative more, and the next time I went to check in with these guys, it's like seeking new drummer. So it kind of went from there. Um, I gave them some idea of what I could do. Um, they gave me a track of theirs to lay down drums on, and I guess it started there, probably over a year ago.

Rob: 9:49

Who's your biggest influence?

Ellis: 9:52

Oh, biggest. It's a bit embarrassing, but Lars Owen there you go okay. He's a loud mouth. He's like Marmite. I love him, I hate him, but he's very successful and very clever. He knows where he sits within the band. He's got amite, but he's very successful and very clever. He knows where he sits within the band.

Rob: 10:08

He's got a solid meter, that's for sure. Lord William, what's going on to you, man?

Will: 10:16

Well, I've always Been into music. I've been going to metal festivals From a really young age. I started about 3 years old On stage with all the big bands and stuff. So I just I got to see like that side of things and I was like this is, this is what I want to do, and I've dabbled in like every instrument possible, like guitar, drums, everything yeah, but none of them really stuck with me.

Will: 10:39

I can, I enjoy them, but like it's not a thing where I'm like I'm good at that, because I'm not by any means. But singing is the one thing that I've ever got feedback from people and they've been like you're, you're amazing, like you're really good. And we, when we were starting out the open mic nights, I'd get people like, to be fair, I get them sort of annoying me a little bit with the you're awesome, you're awesome, just be like, come on, but yeah, from from that. It's what made me really want to pursue the music stuff. Oh, I'm biggest influence, alison chins okay and beam um, for me.

Beinn: 11:23

I started playing guitar at the age of I think I was about 12. I got a guitar for my 13th birthday and I've just never put it down since. I played all through school and I think I was maybe only a couple of years in when I realized music's definitely a thing that I wanted to do. I've been in a few bands. Some of them were to a point where you just come up with a name and that was all that ever happened. You just had a name. Um, I've been in one that played like one gig and then I just kind of coasted about until, obviously, I met will and uh ellis, and I always said to myself that I'd never go to a festival until I was playing one.

Dana: 12:05

That was a good answer.

Beinn: 12:06

The festival I'd go to would be one that I played at and, funnily enough, that turned out to be true with the Kendall Calling gig last year, again thanks to Daz. My biggest influence, I would have to say, is Pantera. I basically grew on Pantera. It's a massive thing for me just being able to play sick riffs on the guitar.

Will: 12:28

There's definitely a lot of steve rae vaughn in that mix though oh, yeah, actually, yeah, I can't deny the stevie's.

Rob: 12:34

And I love that bluesy aspect of it too, though cool.

Dana: 12:39

Okay. So with the name uh name ego trip. How did that come about? Who came up with that and is there a special meaning behind it?

Will: 12:49

um, well, basically for the open mic night, we didn't have a name and they were like writing our individual names on the board and I thought that's shite, like I don't like that. So I just went over and rubbed it out, put Equotrip from there, just stayed with it. We'll probably get a lawsuit in the future.

Rob: 13:11

No, I don't think so. I think we'll get it. My question to all of you guys is is the band more of a democracy or do you have somebody that really takes on a leadership role?

Ellis: 14:02

Oh, it's a dictatorship, dictatorship.

Will: 14:06

That is the dictator.

Dana: 14:11

It's always the quiet one right.

Beinn: 14:13

Yeah exactly.

Ellis: 14:16

There's an extra guy I can't tell you about. He's the puppet master.

Daz: 14:24

On the podcast you can't see them pointing fingers, but on video they're. They're all pointing fingers. It's always the one who's doing the pointing. That's the one you want to watch out for, basically okay, no, go ahead I guess early on.

Ellis: 14:37

yeah, um, obviously will, and bean had a lot of things to bring to the table already that existed prior to the ego trip, ones that have been sat around for a while and given new life, but now that we're on to a brand new thing the right four pieces it's probably what I'd like to do. Yeah.

Dana: 14:57

Cool With band developments and getting things going as a unit. You know there's so much that goes into it that we've discussed on our other. You know podcast episodes. You know it's I mean you guys are like it's like a family. I mean you guys know each other better than probably any significant others or girlfriends, wives, whatever. What plays into as far as you guys all getting along. And the discussion on, say, drinking and drugs before practice, after practice, during shows. How do you, how do you guys deal with that as as a family?

Beinn: 15:33

we just get very drunk. I like it, I love that.

Ellis: 15:35

I think the recent tiering in a band together as a unit has helped a lot in terms of growing closer to each other, knowing the boundaries and do's and don'ts, things like that I think we've been on the same page since day one in terms of shows and behavior and etiquette.

Ellis: 16:01

shows. I think we did all that phrasing about behind closed doors when we're writing and jamming, once it's gig night, you know we're all just on the same page, it's be all over the stage. Set everything up, just absolutely play them with our best and kind of I don't know, yeah, we're kicking it some sort of of I don't know, yeah, we're kicking it some sort of mode?

Rob: 16:23

I don't know.

Will: 16:27

We've never like directly said this is a do and don't, because you don't want to set restrictions on people there, but it's just don't take the piss out of each other, just be good to each other, really, and that's what it's about.

Rob: 16:41

Good attitude. So we talked about this with Daz, but we have a moment we call oh shit. So this is individually if you could tell us a particular time when you've played live or whatever, where you've had a real embarrassing or real something really bad happen to you during a performance. Ellis, let's start with you.

Ellis: 17:06

I've got a bunch as a drummer.

Rob: 17:07

I don't know about you.

Ellis: 17:11

I guess, in small context, my first gig with these guys was a little bit sprung upon me. I mean, you never feel ready for your first gig, right, a little bit sprung upon me. I mean you never feel ready for your first horizon. Um, we, we jammed maybe two times together possibly three.

Rob: 17:26

I think in first really wow.

Ellis: 17:28

The first people, like after worked on something like, would come along and I was like, oh man, yeah, go on. Then, like I couldn't really say no, I thought this is the start of the journey. Um, we'll go down, we're all set up, we're all good. I've borrowed some of the Oakland band's equipment, which is always nice. And then, I think at the last minute I think, we had a song swap, one that I'd maybe not practiced. I think we went from. It was a Mad Season song that I had under the belt. It's certainly a Pearl Jam one that I reckon I maybe knew. So that was real scary, was the oh shit moment. We went for it. There's a couple clubs, a couple like turn around like evil eyes, but we got through it and uh, yeah, it sounded enough like this song, but that was. That was probably the scariest moment, but that's, that's not too bad and lord william how about you scariest moment, but that's not too bad.

Dana: 18:25

And, lord William, how about you?

Will: 18:29

um the last, literally the last gig we did.

Dana: 18:35

I mean, are we talking the whole gig or something?

Will: 18:40

the whole set my voice went on the first song, like first song we started. I'm like, oh man, I looked, I looked right at.

Daz: 18:49

That's actually like I don't know if I can do this I gotta tell you from the other side too, because we was a we're playing weekends, right. So we're out friday, saturday, sunday, right, and the band that was with us. They showed up on the first day and the drummer and the guitar player were wheezing and coughing and they both were walking around this tiny little room saying, oh, we're sick, we're sick, we're sick. And of course my immediate defenses kick in right, and we hit the Sunday show, the very last show, the most recent one we did, and Will was fine all morning and just before we got up on stage he started wheezing and coughing. He grabbed the microphone and the very first note was off. He looked at me and I just looked him in the eye and was like this is going to be so painful.

Daz: 19:33

This is going to hurt you and me it was so bad.

Beinn: 19:37

Poor guy. I was down by the end of the first night. I'd already got it off him.

Will: 19:44

We were all bad. I was down by the end of the first night. I'd already got it off them. We weren't there and shamed the band, though we won't do that to them they were lovely, but they were troopers, right, they showed up, etc.

Daz: 19:55

But I would have preferred if they waited in the car.

Beinn: 19:58

Yeah, mean one of my biggest oh shit moments, bean. One of my biggest oh shit moments I think would be at. Actually, I'm going to refer to the last show.

Rob: 20:17

I would play with you. I wish we'd have been at the last show.

Beinn: 20:22

Basically everything you could think of went wrong. I had a couple of presets on my amp and to use the presets, you, you, uh, you press a button to select the preset right, but if you hold the button down, it like erases the preset and puts it to whatever the current settings are. And the amp. So it just copies what's on the dials. And, uh, I was getting daz, who was on the other side of the stage where my amp was. I was in front of his cab so he was changing the settings for me and I was like, yeah, press that button. And I looked over and seen him put his finger down on the button and just hold it there and I was thinking, oh no, oh no. And I rolled the volume on chugged and I was like you've just erased my tone, you've just completely erased. So I had to go over and like invent a new tone. Literally in the middle of two songs.

Rob: 21:16

I think it's hard to sound it off all right, so yeah, that's.

Beinn: 21:21

We've already discussed yours, unless you have another one, oh we know you, so I'll just sound it off.

Rob: 21:24

Okay, all right.

Dana: 21:24

So yeah, daz, we've already discussed yours, unless you have another one. Oh, we know you got more.

Rob: 21:28

No, no, no.

Daz: 21:29

No, we'll stick with it. You know I have many more, but we'll stick with that one. It was a good one.

Will: 21:33

Okay, have you got one, in particular with Ego Trip, though?

Daz: 21:38

With Ego Trip. I don trip, I don't know. Ellis and I have the same ego trip story, right? I mean, it's exactly the same thing, right? You got you two, just um. I think you perceive it that it's a grunge thing to not be prepared for stuff. So like we get up and we're ready to play something and suddenly there's an audible hey, let's play that song we rehearsed once. Yeah, oh, yeah, oh, okay, the one I can't remember how it goes. You go ahead and start playing. No, it starts with a bass. Give me a hint. Yeah, we did the same thing to both of us, but that's not an ocean moment, that's just a camaraderie moment.

Dana: 22:18

You're just doing your thing which kind of brings me next, brings me to another, another question that you know every band goes through, no matter how long they've been together. Um, covering for mistakes, live, how. How do you guys go about doing that? Is there a side glance that you just you know? Say the the singer comes in a little late on a verse, or somebody goes in a little bit too early on a verse. You know how do you guys cover mistakes without trying to let anybody else know about it.

Rob: 22:46

I rely on my bass player. I don't know.

Beinn: 22:50

Mainly, we just look at each other and smirk the mistake. Like you look in the audience and think, nah, you don't know.

Rob: 22:58

Yeah, yeah, they don't, they really don't the uh the yeah, they don't.

Will: 23:03

They really don't. The usual methods blame the drummer. Oh, that's cold.

Rob: 23:10

Me and him would have a problem.

Ellis: 23:15

My point is to find the one and hit a crash or two, and then you're back in.

Rob: 23:21

There you go, so tell us about what you got coming up for future shows.

Will: 23:24

crash or two, and then you're back in. There you go.

Rob: 23:25

Tell us about what you've got coming up for future shows. Tell everybody what's going on and what to expect from you in the next few weeks, next couple of months.

Ellis: 23:35

This weekend Perfect timing. Yeah, we begin our next leg on the time of recording this. In two days we are going through to Lancaster to play the Pantina. We are playing in Arlisle at the Source Selected, the unofficial official Motorhead Day.

Daz: 23:58

Oh, it's the International Motorhead Day, yeah.

Rob: 24:01

Oh yes, really Cool.

Ellis: 24:03

Saturday is Coventry in the Arces Day. Yeah, oh nice, Really oh cool. Saturday is Coventry in the Arcturus. So, yeah, a few exciting big crowds We've had a few people telling us they're coming to this and a few good pre-sales. Yeah, lots of spirit, lots of energy, Looking forward to the next leg of the tour Awesome.

Dana: 24:22

Awesome, okay. So how about stories of guys you guys stealing each other's girlfriends or shit like that? Any of that coming up yet? Not yet.

Ellis: 24:37

Give the tour a little time An invisible list of band rules in the van. Jazzy is in charge of tapping the van. Yeah, I think. No relation on the road.

Will: 24:47

I think is one of the top that's a good rule, yeah to be fair, though, not stealing each other's girlfriends isn't on that band rules list not yet anyway we should want one yeah maybe the dictatorship just added another okay, okay.

Dana: 25:16

So, so, daz, are you? Are you in um, are you kind of in control of all the going-ons on the road? As the older figure.

Daz: 25:28

Yeah, yeah, it is the older figure thing. You can't escape that. The age is there and it's evidence. But I'm also the only one who drives, oh really.

Rob: 25:36

Oh man.

Daz: 25:37

Yeah, that's good fun when you've got the responsibility of getting you to the venue, getting you safely back from the venue, oh, and playing for three to four hours on stage every night, because it's three hours.

Will: 25:47

Yeah, he has got the most responsibility on the road because he's not just the driver, he plays in all three bands like Bear. Pigs, ego Troop and his own band Loser, which is a lot to do, it is.

Daz: 25:59

Oh yeah, yeah it is, if you don't mind, I'd like to plug the fact that these guys have finished recording their first album.

Rob: 26:10

I was going to ask about that.

Daz: 26:11

It's being mixed. Yeah, and I'll ask them to talk about it after. I share an Ellis story, which is because, you know, ellis did the drums first, so we did some scratch tracks along with Ellis and then we kept, accidentally. You know, the did the drums first, so we did some scratch tracks along with Ellis and then we kept, accidentally. You know the way, in a DAW you can grab all of the tracks at once and they slip around a little bit if you wanted to. We kept accidentally slipping the tracks just slightly off the drums that were recorded and then looking at each other and wondering why Ellis had made such a horrible mistake. He was off by a beat. At least twice during this whole entire album recording we were convinced Ellis was off by a beat. Why is the bass drum?

Will: 26:53

on the tour?

Daz: 26:53

It doesn't make any sense.

Will: 26:56

The worst thing is he wasn't even there and we were just blaming him.

Dana: 26:59

That's just wrong, that's just wrong.

Beinn: 27:03

It's amazing. But the thing oh shit, oh man, that's just wrong. That's just wrong. That's so much shit, bob, that's just amazing. But the thing is, if he had done that, it would have been really impressive, because he was off by a beat consistently, the whole way through. True, still in time, but off by a beat. It's amazing.

Ellis: 27:19

An intentional, creative decision. Clearly.

Beinn: 27:22

Yeah, you're just playing one beat late for the entire song.

Dana: 27:29

So, with that recording that you guys did, how was that process? I mean, did you guys all go in there individually and do it, or was it one in each room? Tell us about the complete process and how you did it.

Will: 27:48

Well, we went in together really for the first few tracks and then there was two left over and guitars and drums fully done on and I had to go back and add my parts over. But yeah, for the most part we were all in together, weren't we? Pretty much live, or I'm pretty sure actually Daz did. I think Daz did his takes on his own. No yeah.

Beinn: 28:10

Daz did. The bass takes about this yeah.

Daz: 28:12

It wasn't live room tracked right, the drums were tracked to some scratch play-alongs and then those play-alongs were thrown out and we then did the guitar, the bass next and then the guitar and then the vocals and sub-detection.

Rob: 28:27

Cool, cool, and when?

Daz: 28:29

is that going to be released?

Rob: 28:30

We did that at Rex. Is that released already? We did that at Rex.

Daz: 28:33

It's so close. It's being mixed. Rex Studio Promotions Rex Studio here in Carlisle. They're amazing and we recorded the whole entire thing with them. He's currently got it for mixing and mastering. Hopefully it'll be out within the next month or so so we can start making copies to bring on the road.

Rob: 28:53

Cool, Please keep us updated and we'll get that information out, so you can get some downloads through us as well.

Dana: 29:03

Absolutely, absolutely. Thank you very much, yeah, of course. So, guys, you know our podcast basically it's. You know, as the name implies, it's Garage, the Stage. We try to throw out tips and suggestions to any musician that's out there, whether they're just starting out in their bedroom or in the first band in the garage, you know, to make it to the level, to where you know you guys are at on the stage and performing and recording. Each one of you give a suggestion to new musicians out there and your number one tip of what they can do to make themselves not only better but to get to the level you guys are at.

Beinn: 29:38

Stay out of our way. Good, all right, I like that. I like that way. One tip is to not be afraid to almost. I think Phil Anselmo said this. He basically said rip off every band. You know, I wouldn't say to do it that shamelessly, but it's okay to take influences from things, and music is a bit of an ongoing conversation. Almost you can basically take something that's already been made and make it new again by just changing two notes. If it sounds good, play it twice, kind of thing.

Rob: 30:19

I think we've all done it.

Beinn: 30:20

I went and ripped off loads of the Beatles and it worked for them. Yeah.

Will: 30:25

I just said, do what makes you happy. Go, go, get on stage, play your heart out, sing your heart out, drum your heart out. Just do it because it's fucking fun.

Daz: 30:37

It's awesome.

Ellis: 30:40

Alice.

Rob: 30:44

Alice, did we lose you? It looks like Alice.

Dana: 30:47

He's frozen.

Ellis: 30:48

There you go we got back in, we're back in, you guys in there, okay.

Rob: 30:55

Gotcha. Well, maybe not.

Ellis: 30:59

The best time to take the leap is yesterday. I feel like if you wait to feel ready, you never will. You kind of just need to go into it and make it yours and make it a place that's comfortable and you can progress within. And what I had and I kind of wish I'd done it sooner, because this has been a lot so- very cool, very cool does it's not a zero-sum game.

Daz: 31:24

Uh, bean was joking and we all laughed so hard about it because of the same reason. But I mean, you don't make yourself better by tearing someone else down.

Rob: 31:32

So it's good advice, right.

Daz: 31:37

Creativity is you know for yourself, when you stand on stage and you're doing something that you made and it's creative and you're showing it to other people that your heart is on your sleeve and you're feeling really delicate, you shouldn't tear other people down. Get out there and support each other. Show up to other bands' live shows. Don't just go to your own. Don't show up and play your set and leave. Everybody needs to support each other.

Will: 31:59

Hell yeah, love that this is another cool thing about being on the road as well. Another thing to get bands into going on the road, you can collect cool band merch. Yeah, into going on the road, you can collect cool band merch.

Dana: 32:10

Well it was a pleasure talking to you guys. It was so refreshing to hear your stories and see what you guys are going through. Final words to your fans and people out there that are listening.

Will: 32:28

Embrace the insanity. Listen to me go trip.

Beinn: 32:31

Yes, there you go there, you go good one I would like to say support the local music scene. You know, save up some money. Go to that gig. That's only got five people there. Buy that pint, that's six quid, you know, do you know, if you you want to go home to your hotel early but stick around watch that band, give them a little nod of appreciation, stuff like that.

Will: 32:55

It's the small things that matter If you need to still buy your ticket and then just get your cans from Aldi.

Ellis: 33:06

I would say just see a show, don't be nervous, don't do a gig, because it might just change your life might be someone upstairs nervous as well.

Beinn: 33:17

You can make friends there.

Daz: 33:19

You go, true yeah, my final words, parting words. Man has not evolved an inch from the slime that spawned him we are friends, alright, guys.

Rob: 33:29

Man has not evolved an inch from the slime it spawned, we are best. All right guys. Hey, it's been an absolute pleasure. Hey, any future plans to hit in the US? I mean, I know it's probably kind of early in the game for you. I've only been together for like a year or so, I think.

Beinn: 33:44

Will might be banned from America, but we'll see.

Will: 33:47

Why would I be banned from America?

Ellis: 33:52

Hey, well, we'd love to come and jam with you guys someday yeah that's right, you put us on stage.

Rob: 34:04

Hey, can we do a follow-up interview with you guys when you're done with your tour? Is that something you'd be willing to do? Yeah, we'd love to hear the stories. Absolutely, there'll be tons of stories after that.

Dana: 34:10

I'm sure Can we do a follow-up interview with you guys?

Will: 34:12

when you're done with your tour Is that something you'd be willing to do?

Dana: 34:13

Yeah, yeah, we'd love to hear the stories, absolutely there will be tons of stories after that.

Beinn: 34:18

I'm sure Don't any good ones.

Rob: 34:20

All right guys. Hey, it's been an absolute pleasure, Thank you. Thank you very much and we'll be in touch, all right. Thank you very much have a good night, thanks. Bye you guys later. Thank you peace.