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Franklin's Garage to Stage
OH SHIT - Show finale before revamping
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We’re wrapping up our current era with a rapid-fire collection of unforgettable “oh shit” gig moments from musicians everywhere, plus a few of our own. We also explain why we’re renaming and revamping the show into “Franklin’s A Evolution Of Music” and what listeners can expect next.
• rebrand plans and why the format needs new energy
• listener-submitted gig disasters from churches clubs and festivals
• power problems abroad plus bad grounding and shocking microphones
• drum riser chaos and how bandmates save the night
• soundcheck mistakes and the risk of open stage mics
• real safety scares like carbon monoxide and electrical explosions
• crowd collisions and accidental hits during big stage moves
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Final Show Before The Rebrand
RobOh shit! Hey guys, what's up? Today we are doing our show finality before we're gonna rename, revamp, our whole format. We're going from Franklin's garage to stage to Franklin's and evolution of music. That's gonna be effective uh what around mid-July? Mid-July?
DanaThat's how once we get our shit together.
RobYeah. And the reason we're doing all this is because we have evolved just like music has. And as I said, evolution of music kind of pertains to what we're talking about because we've we've evolved as well. We've done this a couple times now. But our format's been kind of like dry. We want to like liven it up, we want to get guests on the show and get their perspective of evolution of music. But what we're gonna offer you guys, as loyal listeners as you are, is uh we're gonna get MP3s, videos, and shit like that, behind the scenes things from from uh bands that are like pre-released stuff that you're not gonna see on their socials or their websites. Uh so starting today, what we're gonna do is uh we have some highlights from all the shows. We have a favorite section we call Oh shit. Oh shit. So we've got some uh feedback from well, I'll let you explain. What do we got?
DanaWhat do we got today? We got uh we got some excerpts from you know, obviously, some people that have been on the show before, you know, Martin Motnik, Alexander, beautiful and some of the cool guests we've had, but then we've also had uh some influences and some discussions and feedback from other musicians where you know I put a thing on on uh some of the uh local you know websites and Facebook groups and shit like that, you know, asking people it's like, hey, give us a favorite oh shit moment that you have from whatever happened with you and your band or yeah, so we got some cool shit like that coming from people from all over the United States, even from you know people over abroad and stuff. So yeah, it'll get me give us give us an example of one. Okay, let's let's just go right into it. So yeah, so this one's from uh John S. And um so John says uh was hired by a big church to sub for an Easter service. I can see what is going to be. Oh, yeah, I can't. So a few songs into the program, he had to pee really bad.
RobOh, damn.
DanaSo a song came up that had no bass in it. So I'm assuming he's a bass player.
RobWell, that sucks for you. I mean, you're gonna be a bass player, doesn't it?
DanaUh so I dashed backstage but couldn't find a bathroom. Went downstairs to find one in true spinal tap fashion, got lost in this huge church, couldn't find my way back to the stage. Having a pistol, can't find her. Oh damn. So I finally hear the no bass song and the next one starting. But by the time I got back to them, I see the guitar player who happens to be the person that hired me playing my bass. To be just to say they did not hire me
Why We Created Oh Shit Moments
Danaback. Just because I'm super religious, but you know, we're not gonna get into that here. But I mean I've been in some of these churches. They are pretty big, they're pretty damn big. And you know, big one, yep. Oh man, yeah. Oh, feel for the dude. That's definitely an oh shoot. You know, yeah. Go out and you play him at church, thinking things are good, look good. Lord's looking down on you, and yeah, you can find a place like this.
RobI wonder if you ever went back to that church, you know, for like services or whatever.
DanaThat's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, um, so we got uh Doug H. And he says, uh yeah, he says, you know, not really an oh shit moment, but a funny one.
RobGood. We need fun.
DanaYeah. So I was playing with my big band, and they were called Dead in Spain. I like, I like that. That's cool, name. Yeah, cool name. I hope I hope you guys are still jamming. Yeah, um, at the Central on Sunsh, on Sunset Strip. This place is now called the Viker Room.
RobOh cool name, too.
DanaYeah, uh, this is probably around 1991. So in the middle of a song, a beautiful woman put a folded up piece of paper at my feet on a stage. Oh, okay. I couldn't wait for that song to be over, assuming it was a phone number, hotel room, whatever. That's what I was like, yeah. Yeah. As soon as the song ended, I was so excited I opened it up and it said the bass is too loud. Oh, damn.
RobA critic. Oh man. Had to leave a note saying that. That's just that's just wrong.
DanaHow can a bass be too loud? Come on.
RobI mean, come on, never too loud.
DanaAs a bass player, it's like, you know, you need to feel that bass. Exactly. Feel the thumping in the chest. Yeah. Too loud.
RobSo wow. Well, that's a that's a disappointing fucking oh shit.
DanaThat's not disappointing. And you know, dude, if I were you, keep thumping on that bass. And you know what? Yeah, next time you get a fold-up piece of paper, just burn the shit previously.
RobThere you
Bathroom Mazes And Blown Breakers
Robgo.
DanaI'll just assume it was something good. That way, you know, in your head, you're still thinking, well, they still want me.
RobOh man.
DanaI I'd feel for the dude that's that that's sure he was looking forward uh now. Oh, yeah, but he probably couldn't even concentrate on that song, you know. He's just like, oh man, I don't even know what the hell I'm playing right now, but I want to read that piece of paper. Okay, so coming from uh Switzerland, we got Tony T. Tony, so Tony was saying, playing in Switzerland when my transformer that turned power from 230 to 120 for my guitar started started shorting out and kept blowing all the breakers off to the stage lights. Whoa, and that's all I said. So I mean he was pretty brief about it, but you know that's uh pretty traumatic.
RobYeah, so it's the whole band thing.
DanaOh, yeah, other bads.
RobYeah, yeah, adapters you gotta use further over there.
DanaYeah, yeah, because it is different, different volts. In fact, I think uh that played right into what uh Bruce from Trouble that's shortened out on us because of using the wrong.
RobI saw the last concert where his the head went out. Oh, but fortunately it was during the sound check, I think. So I hadn't run out and replaced the head. So at least probably had you know all the justice has got to do, you know. Fuck. So you would you would uh you would think that these people that are playing overseas are a little bit more prepared for.
DanaMaybe everything overseas and you get shit together and put do everything to 120 volts and yeah, there you go.
RobA fill for Tony.
DanaYeah, well, Tony, you know, it's uh I guess just keep playing in the States.
RobYeah.
DanaAll right. Uh who's this guy? Uh Rob. Rob car Rob, another Rob. Oh, let's see let's see what's going on with this guy. All right. So recently turned 66. I'm not sure how old this is because he you might be 70 by now. Damn. Recently turned 66 from the time I was 21 to about 57. I rock stages and bands all over California. It's like, all right, yeah, we've been there.
RobYeah, done that done the California thing.
DanaWe might even know you, Rob.
RobWhat?
DanaRob R.
RobRob R Oh, Rob R. Okay.
DanaMaybe you missed that point. Recently went to, oh now get this. Recently went to a show in Reno. Ah shit.
RobWhere we held from uh for many years, yeah, unfortunately.
DanaQuite a few shows and they know us well. Probably still talk shit about us. Oh, sure they do. Um here comes the Frankfurt. Oh shit. We're like, oh shit, it's a Frankflip.
RobYeah, we've actually heard that many, many times. Well, we'll get to our shits later.
DanaUm, okay. So this guy I recently went to a show in Reno where they had live karaoke. So my friends talked me into getting up with the band.
RobIsn't all karaoke live? I mean, how would it not be live?
DanaI mean, I get a good point. All right, sorry to interrupt you there, but Bobby fucked up your your English on here. So uh where they had live, they had karaoke. So my friends talked to me into getting up with the band. Okay, getting up with the band. They don't have bands of karaoke. So I'm assuming. Getting up there maybe with his band.
RobYeah, okay.
DanaPart way okay, this is cool. Part way through paranoid by Sabbath. Oh, killer channel. Killer channel. Now this is where it gets funny. Okay, so part way through paranoid by Sabbath, my upper denture blew out of my mouth. How old is this dude? 66. So probably pushing 70 now. Damn. This cheat? Sorry, Rob. Oh no wait, this is different guys still run. No, this is still running. No, this is Rob. This is Rob. Okay. So dentures blew out of his mouth and hit the floor. Everybody bent over, laughing so hard that they had to stop the song.
RobWell, I mean, the dogs are laughing my mouth, too. I'd be embarrassed to walk walk off the stage. I guess it's got a karaoke stage, but anyway.
DanaSo um, so it was horrible but funny as hell. But I picked up the picked picked up. So picked up my dad chairs, right? Dunced it with my beer, which is okay. Well, I'm the back of my mouth and then finish the songs. Okay, that's pretty bad.
RobI mean, uh, kudos for that. Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty bad. Oh shit. Rob glue those things in better, man.
DanaOkay, now I didn't even think about this because the next one I got written here, yeah, we went from Rob R to uh Robert F, host. Oh damn, that's oh minus was awesome.
RobOkay, so if you want to answer this one, I know uh depends on what what he's got to say.
DanaThis one's pretty pretty short and sweet, simple, actually. Come on, Rob, what do you got? So, Rob uh he he went to sing into a mic that wasn't grounded. We know that how that's gonna end up. Yeah, uh felt like Mike Tyson punched me right in the fucking mouth.
RobWell, I didn't think it was that kind of a effect, but anyway, go on.
DanaHe must have been kissing that mic. Yeah, that's obviously he got his ass kicked by it.
RobI mean, I can see a sparking ship, but okay, all right, continue.
DanaNo, that's it. That's all I said. He was he was pretty much two points.
RobOh, Rob F.
DanaKiss that mic and just you know got punched.
RobPut a windscreen
Dentures Fly And Mics Bite Back
Robon that damn microshum.
DanaAll right, all right, so uh Rob F later. Justin W. Okay, this is one you can relate to without a doubt.
RobOkay, let's see what we got. What do we got here?
DanaOkay, falling off the drum riser behind the stage. Wow. My my throne behind the stage, okay. Yeah, my throne was on the edge due to space, and I fell back five feet straight out on my back. Oh fuck. Luckily, the bar gave me free beer the rest of the night. At least. So all good. So that's all I said. So but I know you've been on stage.
RobYeah, that's a similar experience I had.
DanaWell, you're right on the edge there, and yeah, so what what happened to you?
RobWell, this was in Sacramento in a place called Shady Brady's. We played there tons. It's actually Roseville, which is right outside of Sacramento. Played there a ton. But big ass stage, but the riser, the drum riser, not the vocal riser. Anyway, was about five by five. And my I've got a big old kit. I had a big old kit. With a rack system, and everything was on the rack. I mean, all my toms, my cymbal stands, everything was attached to the rack. But the rack was off.
DanaLet me interrupt you here. Go on, go ahead.
RobOkay. So I'm Rob SF, by the way, not Rob F.
DanaYeah. So I you know, we don't have metal initial for him.
RobSo I'm you know, maybe this is you just put one. Well, you interrupt you, so what do you guys think?
DanaOh, actually, this is Justin W. Oh, that's right.
RobSorry.
DanaAlso, I interrupted you to say, um, Shady Brady, what kind of band were you in at this time?
RobWhat what it was a metal band.
DanaMetal band, okay.
RobOriginal metal band called called DOS. Killer band. We lasted uh at least six, seven years in uh primarily Sacramento area. We played, you know, around it like Modesto, Stockton, and some of those towns around it, but primarily Sacramento. We were all original. We were actually three of us members were in another band called Eyewitness Blues. Uh so we did blues and metal, but this was the metal band. And but the lead guitar player and singer for DOS, like I was saying, was in the other band, Eyewitness Blues as well. And the bass player, Stan Sorensen, he was in both bands as well. Anyway. So anyway, this riser. My riser, I mean my rack, my drum riser was on the very edge of the little mini fucking riser they had for the drums. And I was playing pretty aggressively in a double bass kit. So uh as I was playing, the front of the riser started falling, or front of my rack started falling
Drum Riser Trouble And Quick Saves
Roboff the riser. And fortunately, because there's nothing I could do about it. So fortunately, my bass player was paying attention and saw that it was leaning because you know this it was literally like tilting off of his fucking riser. He leaned up against it with his foot, and we continued, continued the song. We were actually at the beginning of the song when it started happening. So he the entire rest of the tune, he like put his his back in his you know, back leg or back of his leg against it to play. It's like it was pretty uh for me it was embarrassing. Fuck, what's gonna happen if the thing falls off? It's not a piece of the whole thing. I would have been sitting there with my the kick wasn't attached to the riser. I mean, yeah, the rack system, but everything else was. I mean, it would have been it'd have been it'd have been a moan. Anyway, he saved my ass there for for that. So I can relate.
DanaSo how far in the set was it? Was this like the beginning of the set?
RobUh no, it was probably like three songs in. But a lot of our tunes, we were uh we'd like combined our originals with uh like a cover. Like, for example, uh Warpings. We had an original that was in the same like keys and all that, and so we combined one of our originals that sounded, you know, the format was kind of similar. So we like put half of our song in the middle of warpings and then go back to our original at the end of it. Yeah, it was pretty cool. It was like a 20-minute song now. Oh well, yeah, it was a killer tune, and but that was uh interesting night. So I can relate just all right well. Uh well, yeah.
DanaAll right, uh Lee, Lee A. Lee, okay. What does Lee got to say? Lee spin it out. So Lee's these gross, sleazy looking older bar flies. Wow, okay, were flirting with me and the bass player. All right, all right. He and I were both barely 18 in the past.
RobIs this guy a drummer? What is he?
DanaUh you know, he didn't mention. I'm assuming drummer, because you know, drummers and bass players. Yeah, yeah, we do. They would say, yeah, they watch out for each other as like your bass players helped out with your play.
RobExactly. Could do.
DanaSo they were barely 18 at the time. All right. Uh so these these gross women, Cougars, I'm assuming. They must have been, yeah, they must have been a little bit older. They kept eyeballing us, winking and grinning. It was making us really uncomfortable, and we had a laughing exchange between us about it. We did not realize there were overhead stage mics and they were on. Oh, excuse me. So during the stage away, stage mics. Oh, okay. So you know, something like the mics we busted on podcasting. Obviously, because you can't see it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So during a lull at soundcheck, so obviously this is happening while they were sitting up and shit. Uh, sentence with which ended with the words, those skanks uttered by myself, echoed loudly into the I was mortified and felt awful about it, and they stomped away. I stood stiff as a statue of the entire gig to shame the rock. Oh damn. One of those cringy moments of young stupidity.
RobOh well, shit happens.
DanaOh, we've all been there. Oh, yeah.
RobWe've been off.
DanaYeah, Lee, Lee, we can relate.
RobThere's no end to our tales as far as what we've done during and after shows.
DanaYeah, yeah, all I can say to that is you know, just know where you're what you're what you're doing with your surroundings. And uh, let's um what other people can not hear. This shit'll get you in trouble every time.
RobYes, it will.
DanaOh boy. Yeah, we've done some shit. Yeah, you can hear that. Yeah, we got somebody else out there. Okay, we'll get back to you there, buddy. Who also yeah, yeah. Uh we got one from Kaylin.
RobKaylin.
DanaKaylen, all right.
RobOh, Kaylin. Kaylin. Okay. Kaylen. I thought you were doing like one word Kaylin.
DanaWell, it is, it's like a Kay Lynn. Oh, okay. So I don't know if Kay's like initial, but it looks like it's like part of her name. Just Kaylin.
RobKaylin.
DanaWhat's up, Kaylin? Okay, so Kaylin. Our drummer female. Well, anyway. Okay, I'd see where this one's going. Our drummer got mad at one of the stage hands, embarrassing him in front of the band and other crew members.
RobOh, drummers.
DanaSo the stage hand replaced all the lights that were on the drum.
Hot Mics And Crew Payback
DanaOh shit. Okay, get this. Picture this in your head. All right. So the stage hand replaced all the lights that were behind the drummer.
RobYou know, obviously, you know, they used to be a big old camp.
DanaUm, yeah, but replaced those with heat lamp lights. Oh. So after the show, the drummer comes up to me and says, Fuck, I think I'm getting sick. He, of course, was drenched in sweat and couldn't figure out why. Oh, damn.
RobOh, I can I can feel it right now. Oh shit.
DanaSo, okay, cool for the stagehand for not taking shit and getting back at them, but drummer, dude, do not piss off the people that are setting your shit up. Yeah, that's true. Come on.
RobThat's very true. I mean, that that's like like especially for like permanent people not just like hired for that night.
DanaYeah, exactly. This is obviously part of their crew, and you know, that'd be like a guitar player pissing off his fucking tech right before the mountain. Dude, he's gonna fucking.
RobOh, why is he not a tune? He's gonna blame you.
DanaHe's gonna fucking file down one of those strings so as soon as you hit it, it's fucking snapping. Yeah, you don't want pistols to go though. Oh, that's kind of funny. That is funny. I like it. Okay, coming live is Desmond S. Desmond, what's going on? Oh, okay. This is this is another bad bull chitch thing, but I'm hearing. Okay. Plugged into a bad quad box that exploded. Quad box. I'm not even sure what a quad box is. I'm thinking like maybe like quad four, so putting a lot of shit in there. Um, but it exploded. Uh knocked me on my ass and burned off half my thumbnail. Oh, damn.
RobWhat was he holding? Or what?
DanaUh he must have been plugged into oh yeah. K-bond. I wish I knew what that was. Lightened up one of those big ass fireworks and not not moving.
RobYeah. Well, actually, that happened to me as well. Of course you have. In Congo on the beach, actually.
DanaWell done. Okay, I'll get this kind of gets away from our whole thing, but remember, you know, our son, my son Darion. Uh-huh. Uh first time we started doing doing fireworks and shit. We gave him a spark floor. He must have been, I don't know, six, seven years old. You know, floor, yeah. Well, you think not. You know, until you take it and you start putting it by your feet and it gets gets on your sock. Started burning the sock. Oh, I can see it running with him. That'd be kind of cool. And I think that's what he did. I think he put it like inside a stock and was running. Yeah, fucking burn the sock. And that would hurt. But that's kind of getting away from the whole lot. Yeah, that's all right. But that was kind of funny. That was funny. That sounds funny. Uh Scotty F. Scott. Okay. So Scott, he stepped off the stage onto a rolling dolly that was left at the bottom of the stairs by some fucking idiots. Oh, skateboard, not the stage. Yep. Didn't see it in the dark, carrying my pedalboard. Oh. Oh, so he's carrying his big ass pedalboard, probably you know, two foot, one footboard flat. So you can't see the shit. Flew forward about eight feet and fucked up both my wrists and elbows landing.
RobOh, damn.
DanaAt least it was when the gig was over, though. Never did find out who that idiot was.
RobI was just about to say, yeah.
DanaBecause you know what? Uh if you would have found that guy, Scotty, you'd probably be in jail, too.
RobOh, yeah. Oh, feel free. I can I can envision that too happening. Yeah, in the dark.
DanaI mean, yeah. I mean, how many times you left stages pitched dark and camera a couple times. There's always steps involved. It seems like shit, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that would suck. Oh man. All right. Well, feel free there, man.
RobYeah, that's uh I hope you recovered.
DanaYeah, hopefully Scotty's still playing in the action. All right, Michael B. All right, B.
RobMichael B Michael B.
DanaWhat do you got? Oh shit. So my Mike he had a hard day here.
RobOh yeah, long on there?
DanaOh that's not long, but it's it's a it's a hard one. I can just just read just in the first couple words here. Had a mild stroke during his set. Damn, was this another uh older dude or what? It doesn't even say um either that or just the young guy's eating too much shit. But you know, I I eat a lot of shit. Oh, I just it's amazing.
Explosions Falls And Real Emergencies
RobDrinking shit right now. Mountain Dew.
DanaI know Mountain Dew. We got Pepsi.
RobI'm not endorsing you, Mountain Dew, because you're not paying us bad.
DanaOh Mountain Dew, you might want to get on that because we're working. Mountain Dew, and I got a wild cherry Pepsi there. I think the same, yeah. So Michael B had a mild stroke during set, was playing half a beat behind the rest of the band. I was getting funny looks for a few of the songs. Getting funny looks for a few of the songs until the other guitar player saw my drooping face, decided to cut off decided to call off the rest of the set.
RobYou think you think, yeah. You may want to 911. Oh man.
Speaker 1So damn Michael, I I hope you're okay, dude. Hope you covered in that one. You know, if I were you, I'd fucking fire the rest of that, those band members. Give us somebody can recognize the hey, at least it happened when we do shitty love.
RobSo if I die, that's what I'm saying.
DanaI was just getting ready to say if I ever have a fucking stroke or heart attack, it's like better be on stage or you know, yep.
RobIn bed with my end, yep. Yes. Yep, okay. Oh yeah, I heard that white part.
DanaOkay, yeah, well, I don't want to get in trouble. Let me baby. Okay. John M. All right, John. Oh shit, this one's funny. Okay. So John M. Um, I'm gonna I'm assuming this is somewhere in the south, and as soon as I read this, you're gonna you're gonna sell their dude now, too. Yeah, and this is nothing, you know, prejudice, so don't I don't want no fucking hate mail on it, people?
RobHey, we don't get in. Anyway, so send us some hate mail. Go ahead.
DanaI'll take some shit. Go ahead. Yeah, I'm double damn you. All right. So John M, some drunk chick with a broken leg, was trying to dance, proceeded to do a full face plant into all of our gear. Oh damn GA, speaker tower, guitar amp, pedal board, and a few of the drums.
RobOh man, she took a good plant.
Speaker 1So and she was a big girl. So it took a while. It took a while, and the whole band voiced her out in the cartilage. Whole lot of rose. That's exactly what I was doing. Oh damn, dude. Oh shit. So obviously.
RobIt's always a drunk chick. Uh huh. You know? Always.
Speaker 1Y'all trying to dance the broken leg. It's like, come on, girl, really? What are you what are you fucking trying to prove here?
RobAlcohol didn't make you do funny things.
Speaker 1Oh, damn. That's another whole fucking episode.
RobThat's a fucking write that down. Drunk episode.
Speaker 1Oh shit. Oh remember we drove down one-way street for a long time and written. Your birthday or my birthday? Well, we we did uh birthday bashings because our birthdays are so close.
RobIn the main street in Reno, South Virginia Street? Yeah.
Speaker 1Wrong way. Wrong way. I think we did it. You turned out a Wells Fargo parking lot. I think we did. Oh yeah.
RobOh yeah. We got some. Oh, let me include that in the drunk one. Oh yeah. All right, who else we got?
Speaker 1Okay, Bill E. Billy. It's not Bill E. It's Bill E. Okay, I see what you did with it. Okay, you're playing on words.
RobIs it a southern dude? Because that would definitely fit.
Speaker 1Billy. Billy. I don't know. Can't tell from.
RobWell then you gotta throw in a middle name because they always do the middle name shit and stuff.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it's always like Billy J, Billy J or Bobby Sue. Well, Bobby Sue, that wasn't really good, right? Well, nowadays that might be though. Yeah. People are getting fucking weird with okay.
RobYeah, everybody like pronouns and all that.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's just going with they and stuff like that. That's another whole fucking episode there, too. Okay. Hate mail. Hate mail. Send it. Send it. We'll take it.
RobOh shit. We're not prejudiced, we just hate a lot of shit.
unknownYeah.
Speaker 1It's a lot of people who listen to us. I know it's and thanks you guys for doing the ones that do listen. Send us some shit. Yeah. Okay. So Billy. Billy, what's up? The furnace in the club was leaking carbon monoxide. Oh, how do you even know that? Well, I'll tell you why here in a second. Okay, the singer started slurring and forgetting all the words. Oh shit. He's gonna stroke out like that. What was it? Yep. He's gonna stroke out like uh, who was that guy? Um Michael, like Michael B.
Speaker 2Michael B. All right.
Speaker 1So after he was slurring and forgetting the words, uh, he just went straight to we all had to go to the hospital for oxygen. Wow. Show obviously was canceled. Yeah, never had such a big fucking headache before in my life.
RobWow, and uh who initiated the lawsuit or should have.
Speaker 1I know you get paid a lot more than your fucking gig down with the lawsuit there.
RobWow, all right.
Speaker 1Uh never had carbon monoxide headache thing going on. So I don't know. Not that I'm aware of it. I mean, I know you can't smell the shit.
RobI know that's why I was asking. It's like, how do you even fucking know that?
Speaker 1You start slurring and look and looking like Michael B the ass true.
RobOh, okay.
Speaker 1No, nothing against any of you guys. I mean, this shit is funny, and that's why you you responded to my request asking for the shit. So all fairness, exactly you're the ones that put it on print.
RobSo get over it. Good point. Good point.
Speaker 1Hate male. Hate male. Okay, so John P. John P. Billy D. John P. I don't know if that's like John Paul Jones, maybe. There you go. John did John Paul Jones. Baseball. Is he still alive?
RobI have no idea.
Speaker 1I don't know. I know the drummer's dead, right?
RobOh, bottom?
Speaker 1Oh, yeah. He was like the first one. Paige is still around, I think. Yeah, yeah. Singer's still around. Well, that is, yeah. I think John Paul's still alive. I'm not sure. Okay.
RobI should know. Well, I don't think you got we got no shit email from him, but you never know. Anyway, okay, John P.
Speaker 1I was running around the bar. Oh shit. I remember reading this. Oh, this is funny. Okay, I was running around the bar playing the guitar solo. You know, I think guitar players around, round, round, all crazy and shit. I played with Mike Howard. Get on tables and shit. Yeah. You know what? I I gotta say, you know, and I'm gonna fucking kind of fuck, I'm not gonna fuck it up, but get offline here. Guitar players, you do them solo, just don't stand there and look all
Crowd Chaos And Band Meltdowns
Speaker 1fucking boring. Do you think people want to see a show? Do they install the show? Shit. Fucking run around on your back and there you go. Do crazy shit. You know, I know as a bass player, I like to run around and you're a good like performer. I don't care how old you are.
RobYeah, even if you know, if you're in a fucking like us, you still gotta do a show.
Speaker 1Yeah, put a fucking motor on the walker and fucking cruise around the stage.
RobYeah, do really on you.
Speaker 1Exactly. So obviously, John P here, he was getting into the shit. He's running around the stage doing his guitar solo and accidentally, accidentally hit the singer's wife in the face with the with the headstock of his guitar. Oh shit. Um, it's kind of funny. Still searching for some teeth.
RobOh no. Oh, smacked her good. Oh damn. Is he still friends with uh that's what I was just gonna comment on?
Speaker 1John P. I don't know if you're still in that band.
RobI don't know if you're in a singer get along, but pay attention to your surroundings, man. Oh, drunk. Wait, that's drunk episodes.
Speaker 1Or you know, if you're if you're the wife of the guitar player or the singer, you know, you know what these guys do on stage. Yeah, you should have been prepared. Yep, yeah. That's that's like fucking going in the middle of moshfit.
RobI can see that happening at a big time.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, I can definitely see that. But that'd be like you know, somebody complaining at a metal fucking concert going in the middle of a moshfit that they got hit. Yeah, what the fuck do you expect? Exactly. So so you know what? Uh I'm sorry for whoever the wife was, but John Pink, way to fucking rock it out. Okay, and this one, uh, Angus T. Oh Angus, we got Angus, huh? I wanna hope you're gotta be from Australia or someplace like that. Yeah, probably huh? Then Mark was a place like that. Okay, uh, this one's kind of sad. Where's the sad?
RobOh, we don't want sad. Well, fuck.
Speaker 1Okay, well then let's give it a give it to Angus says a band broke up while on stage and had to recruit musicians in the audience to finish the gig. Wow. Well that's kind of oh shit.
RobSo that's how the fuck you do that.
Speaker 1I wish he would have allowed a bit on that as like who pissed off who. I'm assuming, and this is you know, hate mail, go ahead, get to but I'm assuming it's the singer and guitar player, because yeah, yeah, they always got the fucking egos, right?
RobYeah, well, yeah, they gotta have an ego person.
Speaker 1But exactly, you know, and I I appreciate that because that's what makes the fucking bands who they are, right?
RobSo, um how do you break up while you're playing?
Speaker 1Yeah, but while playing, so somebody obviously fucking is really pissing somebody off bad.
RobI mean and then the recruit, how how do they recruit somebody like, hey, we got a guitar player out there, or how the fuck do you do that?
Speaker 1Well, I mean, how many times have we gone and seen you know bands and you know, or maybe they're opening up for somebody else and they're or the bands from the other groups who were like, dude, we'll fucking help you finish. That would actually be kind of cool. You know, cover and shit that you know, we can at least fake it enough for them to finish the gig. I mean, that would be kind of fool. Cool. I mean, I wouldn't mind fucking stepping up with now stepping up. It's like, dude, I'm sorry you guys, you know, who knows? Maybe they just formed a new fucking super group that was better than what they had before. No shit. I guess good luck with your ventures there.
RobOh, that was the end of it?
Speaker 1All right, yeah, that was it.
RobHe was that's that's a lot, though. He was pretty pretty fun that's definitely no shit.
Speaker 1Yeah. Uh Smitty.
RobSmitty. Smitty W. You got some interesting names today.
Speaker 1Smitty. I wonder what that really stands for, if it's just parents. Shitty Smitty. I'll just give you the getting all kinds of fucking nails. Yeah, we are. Okay, Smitty W. We were jamming through our set. Oh shit. Okay. We were jamming through our set on the second floor of the cup of the club as the patrons and owners were on the first floor. Obviously, I'm guessing that's where the bar and all the shit was. Okay.
RobProbably restaurant. Whiskey go where we got upper upper levels. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1So they were they were jamming upstairs, and you know, all the other shit was some other shit was happening downstairs. Um, but while they were jamming upstairs, all the people on the first floor were being robbed at gunpoint. Wow. So as we finished our set to go downstairs and grab a beer, cops were everywhere. Everybody was fucking panicked and scared. Needless to say, we didn't get paid for the gig.
RobHey, how's that affect your pay?
Speaker 1I guess they took every dollar that everybody had.
RobSo they were playing through this whole thing, huh?
Speaker 1I guess so. So kudos for fucking jammed.
RobYeah, exactly.
Speaker 1Loud enough to where you didn't know what you're talking about. Yeah, those obviously everybody on the second floor is having a good ass time and people on the first floor. Well, that's people was kind of having a bad day. Wow. That's that's uh wow. So those were pretty much most of the comments from you know uh from you know, people we haven't talked to. You know, we got a couple more, you know, that we can episodes from uh exactly people that we have talked to or but you got anything to throw in? Give me one of yourself.
RobNo, give me one of yours. I already gave you one of mine with the riser. I'll get another one now.
Speaker 1I gotta take a drink of my wild cherry Pepsi.
RobWell, I'll give you one more. Back in this, you know, this actually happened at the same fucking club. Shady Brady's in Roseville, California.
Speaker 1Shady Plex, obviously.
RobWe were just finished the set, or actually finished the show. We went outside in the back because this was like uh it was a two-layer like club, too. There was like the upper layer was the actually where the band played. You've been there, yeah. And then the
Served Papers And Cabo Imposters
Robbottom layer was like the bar. And then so we were on the upper level, obviously, and we were starting to take our gear out the back. Um, and we thought we, you know, we had a great show and all that shit. And a bunch of like women were hanging around the back, and one just happened to like walk up to me, was acting all nice, and she was pretty as shit. And she goes, Can I have your your autograph, please? So we're me and Mike and Sharper looking at each other, yeah. Okay, cool. She says, You've been served. Oh yeah, so I got out. I'm not gonna tell you what I was for, but I had yeah, got I got served. That was that was her way of getting my her papers sent in. Oh, that's that was uh definitely old shit. I was all excited, like, oh yeah, I'll you know I'll sign this for it.
Speaker 2That is okay.
RobOh yeah, it was pretty damn clever. Oh fuck.
Speaker 1That is pretty damn pretty people that are fucking served.
RobIt was clever enough. Oh damn, that was definitely uh memorable. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1Oh shit, yeah, that that that definitely is old shit. Yeah, okay. Talking about you know, autographs and shit, that just when you said that it hit me. This isn't really an old shit, but I'm just kind of a really good old shit, dude. Remember, we were in fucking Cabo, Cabo Son Lucas, and we're at uh Hard Talk Cafe, yeah, fucking eating and listening to whatever. Um, and so remember there's a bunch of parties and shit, people were drinking, fucking having a good time.
RobYeah, yeah.
Speaker 1We had that one girl came over to our table. It was you, me and dad. We took dad down there for his fishing trip, yeah. Yeah, his retirement party and went to all deep sea fishing and shit, which nah that's another shit.
RobThat's another story. That's definitely a worship story, but uh that was an interesting trip all the way around.
Speaker 1It wasn't so so the girl comes over and she's like, she's like, wait, aren't you guys? Oh fucking remembers she's looking at us, you know. We both had our fucking long ass blonde hair. This is back in the I I don't know, when 89, 90, 91, whatever. No, it's mid-90s. Somewhere around there, you know, had our fucking long ass hair, and you know, in our young 20s and looking fucking fine and shit. Thought we were all that we're boxed, we'll get our leather jacket. I mean, just playing the whole fucking thing, right? Yeah, yeah. She comes over, she's like, Wow, aren't you guys? She thought we were the fucking uh Nelson Nelsons, yeah. Gunner and whatever the other guy names, so of course we were fucking we played into it. We're like, Yeah, you know, we're just here on vacation, we're trying to stay low. Fucking didn't we say dad was our manager? Yeah, exactly. Dad was our manager, and you know, he's keeping us out of trouble, and we're just they're low-key. We don't want this. It's just like, oh well, we're having a huge ass party after this. We'd love for you guys to come. I definitely remember this. Asking for autographs and shit. That so that was that was pretty cool. But that's definitely asking for an autograph.
RobYeah, needless to say, we never went to that party.
Speaker 1Oh, we didn't because that that could have been a whole lot.
RobWe could have been put on the spot as like play some of your songs for us. Like, I don't know. I'm a drummer number one.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, we know we did look a lot like we had the long head, straight blonde hair. Um, but yeah, that was funny.
RobThat was they were more that was no shit and funny.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was more like pop rock, not not kind of shit. So yeah, I wouldn't have a clue. You know, as soon as I started singing, they'd be like, what the fuck is that guy's?
RobOh that was yeah, that was oh shit for sure.
Speaker 1Other than that.
RobUm yeah, what else you got? Anything else? That's well, you know, we got tons of them, but you know what? I think we've uh we've pretty much covered some great oh shits.
Speaker 1Okay. Well, let's hit some of the ones from some of the people that have um been on our show.
RobOh yeah, yeah. Just uh um speaking of which, sorry to interrupt you, but I am gonna include in this episode at the tail end some of the uh audio and well, maybe not the video, but some of the audio clips from these episodes that we're talking about, the old shit segments. And some of them are pretty pretty damn good, but it I want you to be able to hear them in their own voices, so yeah, I will include that at the end.
Speaker 1Yeah, um, especially like the the first one I'm getting ready to here from Alexander Linus. Oh, yeah.
RobShe was so cool, yeah.
Speaker 1For Bel Belgrad and um the Belgrade, I'm not sure how to say that. Serbia, but fucking great guitar player. Oh yeah, really a sweetheart, too. Just fucking humble and just just a great person. We love talking to you. We hope you're listening to this episode.
RobAnd she's in Frozen Crown, Jenner, which is her band, and what else?
Speaker 1Um, damn, I fucking remember either. Well, you know what? I it will come
Guest Highlights Under Pressure
Speaker 1to me here in just one second. I don't know why, because you know, I keep notes on this kind of shit. Well, I do too, but uh oh yeah, but did I fucking write it down? Um oh it's called Sigma Epsilon.
RobOh yeah, oh yeah, okay, there you go. So uh get a chance to check out her website because she's uh multi-talented, multi-bands, and uh yeah, somebody just gotta you gotta follow her if you if you're into metal music, just a like I said, a great person and musician, just humble down to earth, and I mean, just yeah, you definitely gotta check check her out and all of her stuff. Well, what's hers? We've had some money, I'm telling you truth.
DanaI don't really remember what she said with her first live show with Frozen Crown. And oh yeah, and to go back with this, it's her soul because she had a long ass story, and I I don't remember everything about it, but it was her first live show, and she said she had a couple rehearsals with them, but it was just with the other guitar players, so it wasn't with the full band. That would be tough. So she never going on stage with a new band and not playing ever with the whole band for your first live show. She said it was like huge. You know, and they said that it was like one of these festivals, there's like 10,000, 15,000 people there. So I mean how intimidating would that be nerves as shit, let alone not rehearsing with the whole band, not knowing exactly what the fuck's gonna happen. So, and she had issues with her in-air monitors, which oh yeah, remember that. And I gotta say, if I remember right, she said this is the first time she's used in-air monitors. Yep, she did say that. She did bands like us where everything was live and raw and right, you know, more which is actually what I prefer, but that's a different show. No, I've never used in-air monitors myself, so I they would fuck with me too, because I wouldn't even know what to expect. But so, first first show with this huge band, huge audience, and using new technology, in-air monitors. Um, and she said during the first song it was so loud she couldn't hear it. I mean, it's just one thing she couldn't even hear herself play or think. So she went to turn it down, then she turned it down too much and she couldn't hear shit. So she's playing anything and make me you know picture this. You know, you're doing this on stage, trying to adjust this while you're still doing it. She's doing it. Trying to concentrate on a first show, plus be a showman, you know. Exactly. Oh man. So then so she turned it down, then she can't hear sit, so she's trying to fucking do her solo shit. She doesn't know what the fuck she's playing, other than just you know, down there. Hopefully, she has a floor monitor somewhere.
RobUm kudos for even getting through that.
DanaBut anyway, so she finally got that situation where she can hear through the in-air monitors, but like a song later, the bass player, of course, blame it on the fucking bass.
RobDamn, bass player.
DanaThe bass players running running around the stage, which kudos do, because I'm the same way. I love you know, yeah, you run around, yeah, yeah. And so, but the bass player came by and stepped on her pedal board, and then the one thing that she had on there, so it turned off her whole system. So I don't know what he said, but turned off anything. So now she's got no sound, nothing coming through her ear, and it's pretty much all fucked up. And this is this is just something first show and a big ass band, big ass. This is just a sucking song. And then she goes on, even more shit happened. So when she plugged that back in or turned it on while she's trying to act all you know, professional while trying to do this with your new band on for the first time. Oh man, I feel bad for it. Oh, yeah.
RobUm, her showmanship is incredible too.
Speaker 1It is, yeah. You gotta check it out.
RobDamn, all that happening, and you're oh man.
Speaker 1Then there's one more, one more caveat to this, which happened. Uh so while that happened, then everything comes back on board, I guess. And you know, of course, it was in your monitor, you got to click to it, right? Right. So, yeah, well, she said that that fucked up, and during the song, there's a certain click that everybody's playing to. Then she remember saying that, yeah. Yeah, and then she does a part where it's just her guitar, right? Right, and so she she missed that whole click thing, and she just didn't know when to come in with that guitar. So she said that fucked up the rest of the band because they're waiting on her, and she's off. She said they had to finish the song off behind the whole click thing going off at a different time. I mean, can you imagine as a drummer?
RobDidn't the band tell her though that she had done a great job at it? Yeah, I told her something high you pulled that off.
Speaker 1But can you imagine, like as a drummer, you know, you're getting this click thing that's off, and then you're kind of trying to concentrate on the real timing suppressive band.
RobIn the back, oh man.
DanaSo that is definitely an oh shit moment. Oh, yeah.
RobI mean, I I couldn't even imagine what a pro to be able to do all that and go through all that and then come out that situation, yeah. That's incredible.
Speaker 1And and fucking pro season. That's awesome. You gotta check them out. They're killer, yeah. Alexander, and her band generous awesome, amazing. Wow, so everybody, you gotta you gotta check that shit out.
RobThat's a good one, though. That's yeah, wow, that's definitely oh shit times three. Oh man.
DanaThen I got you know, remember we talked to uh Lenny Bruce from Dustbolt, um, band out of Germany.
RobVery cool, dude.
Speaker 1Cool, really, really fucking cool. They're their music.
RobThey're one of my new favorites. I I really, really dig them all.
DanaYeah, I in fact I downloaded about four or five of their songs and threw it on my playlist.
RobIf you like thrash music, check out Dustbolt.
DanaThese guys are, I mean, just a backstory on Dustbolt. They've all been playing together since they were like 13 years old. A bunch of teenagers, they're all still the same band, they're in their you know, mid to late 20s now. So I think he said they've been playing together for 10, 15 years.
RobYeah, 13, 14, or something.
DanaThat's hard enough, since we know just fucking keeping a band together that long and still liking each other. I mean, we talked about this on our episode if you want to go back and listen to it, but um but going back to you know, Dustbolt and and Lenny, he was their their whole thing was bringing uh speed metal back, yeah, you know, as uh speed metal thrash speed metal. Not really speed, but yeah, thrash metal, yeah.
RobMetallica type. I mean, if you want to compare it to somebody, it's like old metallica, I guess.
DanaYeah, exactly. And you know, like I said, he's they're trying to bring it back. And and I I see just from looking at some of the stuff and through a lot of the socials that uh a lot of the uh music that we really started getting into, um, of course, some of it even date back to the 70s, but mostly in the 80s and early 90s, you know, some of that initial, and we're gonna talk a lot about this on the evolution. Yeah, yeah, definitely our new show because this fits right in the same vein of how music's evolved. But a lot of that music that we listened to just kind of disappeared for a while, or some of the shit they were doing just wasn't as good.
RobIt almost turned into like underground.
DanaYou would think that'd be mainstream, but it almost was almost like came up, you know, grunge and all the other shit that came up that kind of took away from what uh bands like this were doing. But now a lot of it's it's making a resurgence, you know. A lot of these young kids, hey, we love the shit that you guys, you know, probably talking about parents and you know shit, people our age. It's like we love the shit you guys were doing, and and they're bringing it back, which is yeah. Thank thank you, Lenny, and bands of like you.
RobAnd he's really into like community, building a community is like with musicians and and you know, like a community in general.
DanaYeah, it's like they're all about friends and community, and it's like you know, supporting your local shows and your local bands, and you know, hang out with people and make it a family, which is fucking right on. I love that. Yeah, but his old shit momentum, one of them, he had a bunch, but uh yeah, yeah, so they're really good ones. But the but the the one I'm gonna address now because I think it's it's a pretty short one, it's pretty fucking funny. So they were doing a live festival, you know, in Germany. They were like the third or fourth band on. You know, there's like 15, 20,000 people here. They were excited because it was like a big show for them. And so he's you know, and he's the rhythm guitar player and singer, so he's up there singing. And stuff and you know, playing rhythm. Then he turns around, all of a sudden he hears this crash. This the big guitar player that was running around on stage just disappeared. He hears this crash. He's like, Well, the I guess when they put the stage together, somebody fucked up, and one of the panels that he ran over fell and he just disappeared into the ground. It just like did a fucking cool show if you're one of the hours. Wasn't intentional. He just fucking dropped down and disappeared. So, you know, thank God he didn't break his guitar or any fucking limbs or anything. Yeah, but climbed his way out of it and another lawsuit. And no shit. Climbed his way out of it and carried on with the show. Wow. But yeah, that definitely no shit moment. You can imagine him, you're running around shit all the time, you're fucking down on the drive underneath the stage.
RobI don't remember Van Nemer's member's name, but hey, where's Johnny? Oh man. Oh, that's an old shit.
DanaYeah. And the last one I think that we're gonna bring to you for this is you know, and this is one of my favorites from one of my favorite guys that we've talked to. And you know, nothing against everybody else, but this guy, I mean, I relate to because I not only envy him.
RobMust be a bass player.
DanaExactly. But just his whole story. It's uh Martin Montnik from Excel.
RobCool, cool dude.
DanaI mean, he's one of the first big name people we talked to, just cool. I mean, if he had the time, he would have hung out with us all the time. Oh, yeah.
RobReal humble and just down to earth. I mean, really. Cool, dude.
DanaAnd um, you know, number one, he's a bass player, but you know, we happen to have the show on my birthday, which made it even special. But it's like, you know, his story, you know, the guy starts learning the bass in his parents' bedroom.
RobProbably had a poster of Except on the Wall. Um, he did.
DanaHe even said that. Had a poster of Accept and Scorpions and some of those bigger German deceits from Germany on his wall, and then he ends up on stage with them. I mean, it's his story is how do you beat that? His story is unreal.
RobYou know, he uh that'd be like Black Sabbath for me. Like when Ozzy was alive, getting a call from Sharon, like, would you join us for uh our tour?
DanaWhat the fuck? So it's like this guy goes from you know, like our initial podcast when we were Garage Stage, even though we're involved in, you know, he'd lived that story. He went from his fucking like the movie Rockstar.
RobI mean, exactly kind of shit.
DanaExactly. Wow, yeah, you know, and then he he explained how you know he played with Yuli John Roth before that, which is killer because he was one of the original guitar players for Scorpions when they first formed.
RobAnd um he's got some cool solos up solo projects.
DanaYeah, and solo stuff. So, you know, Wolf Alfman, of course, from Accept, you know, heard his stuff and said, Hey, you know, we need a bass player because I think Peter Boltz, their original bass player, went off with Udo, who formed you know, the original singer for Accept and formed their own Udo, the band called Udo, and the bass player went with him. So, you know, and um he filled in the spot, and just his story is fucking incredible.
RobSo that's a call you definitely want to take.
DanaWow, can you imagine that? So, you guys definitely got to check out our episode of Tim or just thinking about it, makes your hair stand. Yeah, look up Martin Mondnik, period. He's got some great solo albums out there.
RobLives in Nashville now.
DanaListen to Nashville, he fucking scumps don't skip away from us. Um, but his oh shit moment was it's pretty damn funny. It's he was uh he was at uh Ronnie Montrose Jam at the Nottam Show in um Los Angeles, big shows they put on every year, and he was playing with guys from you know White Snake, Magnadeth, Doors, and the original uh piano player for Montrose or keyboardists. I don't know if he said piano player, but um so they were doing like a little tribute thing to to Ronnie Montrose, right? And they said that there are three songs that they were playing, and after the first song, which was you know everything went kiddler, you know, the the piano player stopped and started telling this really somber story about you know Ronnie. So everybody's quiet and kind of in a you know zen mode, just chilling, listening to these, you know. The atmosphere of the reflecting on Ronnie Montrose's career and his life and all that. And so Martin's like, you know, I'm just standing behind the piano guy on the stage, just sitting there, and he goes. And then and what makes this even more special, I guess, is while he was at the nom show earlier in the day, he was getting endorsements, and you know, people are coming up to him, he's like, Hey, try this, try this.
Speaker 2And right, right.
DanaAnd this guitar strap company gave him a guitar strap. It's like, you know, you gotta try this, it's really cool. And he's like, Yeah, it's really comfortable and light. And so he used that that night, feeling like you know, he wanted to play tribute to them. It's like, you know, thank you for letting me pick up an endorsement. Exactly, you know, just to you know, hang out with the yeah, yeah. So he's standing behind the piano player while he's doing the summer story and stuff, and just standing there, you know, his hands to his side while everybody's just listening to the story. He's like, you know, and all of a sudden, in just a couple seconds, bam! The fucking bass falls. Oh no, because he didn't have time to put strap locks on it. He just put it on there. Oh, shooting. He's like, fucking bam! Of course, the guitar's still on because he's getting ready to do another song, and he just goes, Well, it's really quiet, and all of a sudden he makes this loud fucking thunt, and everybody hears that and everybody just looks up at him.
RobI wonder if he broke his headstock off. Oh, bass is a pretty sturdy of them.
DanaYeah, so like you know, so he's like, you know, I he's just standing there, and all of a sudden, this fucking thing happens, right? And all of a sudden he's like, oh shit.
RobYou know, he just looks up, literally says ocean.
DanaYeah, you know, basically was the floor, a whole audience was looking at him, and all he can do was like, oops. Oops. So it's not his fault. That's like, yeah, exactly. So he picked up the bass and you know, quietly, you know, walked backstage to the tech. Because at that time he was making sure it was still working, right? You know, so you get ready to do the next song. He's hearing his buzz. He's like, fuck, so he took it back to the tech, and he's like, give it to the tech. So, dude, you got like 30 seconds to fix this, and it was just a loose screw on the pickup, you know, because the pickup came too high and was hitting the hitting him on the string. So they just you know nailed that or screwed that down a little bit and everything was cool. But then he's like, after that, he had to do you know the whole walk of shame back on stuff. Yeah, yeah. Oh shit.
RobI hope he didn't already decline that endorsement.
DanaHell no, I don't know if these straps. I remember when we were talking to him, you know, after after he gave us a story, the first thing we asked him was like, and he's like, Because you know, actually, right now I'm looking at that fucking strap in my house. So I guess he kept it. But you know, of course, he didn't name companies, and I don't blame him.
RobI don't blame him on death.
DanaBut oh shit, but in a show like that with all the prestigious people that are there, and that I'm sure he handled it well though, because he's he's a cool dude. Yeah, but damn, that that would really suck.
RobSo that's you know, that's uh that was some great oceans. Yeah, that was that was cool. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed that, and please do uh like tune in because like I said, we're revamping, renaming the show. Uh you should still be able to find it on all your podcast platforms, but uh yeah, that was killer uh killer discussion about what happens.
DanaAll of our old episodes happens, all of our old episodes will be on you know the streams and all that, they'll be on there forever. Yeah, you know, until even after we die. So yeah, well, all you people you can still get on there and listen to it, you know, check out some of these people that we were just talking about because they had some great episodes, right? Um,
Merch Support Link And Next Steps
Danabut definitely look for us with uh an evolution of music, and we're gonna be bringing some really cool shit into the into the future.
Speaker 2Cool.
RobAnd um, speaking of cool shit, we have some merch. All we require is uh is a comment. Fucking hate mail, love hate mail, yeah. Throw it in there, and we're gonna do a drunk episode, right? No, just kidding. Yeah, send us a comment and we'll we'll get some uh we'll get some merch out to you. But but you gotta fucking leave a comment.
DanaAnd here's a comment, you know.
RobHere, here's uh sorry for the language, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
DanaUm so here's a thought, you know, comics. We know we're gonna get some hate mail. Some of the love mail. So so why not put your own your own oh shit moment on there? Exactly. We can have an oh shit part two down the road. Yeah, so yeah, I'm sure we will actually tell us how much you hate us because we're talking about back trunk chicks or whatever the kind of shit that we talked about. Um, but you know, while you're hating on us, give us an oh shit moment that you think would belong on our show.
RobYeah, and you know, and even though we're revamping and renaming, it's still gonna be us. So if you are a band in that situation, like still like trying to get out of the garage or basement or room or wherever you're at to stage, we still want to talk to you. I mean, tell us what you're doing, tell us how you're evolving, and you know, it'll fit into our new format. Yeah, because I mean everybody's got evolved.
DanaWe've how many times have we evolved? Too many, and we'll then we'll bring that up with one of our episodes uh coming up.
RobBut it's been a pleasure uh bringing this to you, and I hope you've enjoyed it. Uh, if there's things you'd like to see that we're not doing, let us know. We're we're wide open for suggestions. I mean we'll take them, but we're wide, we're wide open.
DanaActually, we probably won't, some people, but you know, and then you but yeah, and you smart mount intelligent people. Of course, if you're smart and intelligent, you might not be listening to us anyway. Or hey mount intel. Um, but thank you to all of you guys that have supported us in the past.
RobYou know, speaking of sports, sorry to interrupt. We have a support link. Please click on that. See, we see we're on the space player drummer. You know, we gotta be aligned. Do it, do it anyway. Well, do one. I forgot where I was going. No. Please do uh click on that support link. It only costs you three bucks. You can do it one time, you could do it monthly, whatever. But what that's gonna give you is not only some merch, but it's gonna give you bonus episodes behind the scenes, shit you're not gonna see on any socials. I mean, our new format's gonna include some of that, but we're gonna have bonus episodes as well. But you have to be a supporter to actually even see that. So please do click on that support link and three three dollars.
DanaI mean that's not even more than a gallon of gas support. Yeah, fucking look at bread, I think, costs more than that. So come on, people. You know, put down your fucking bong, and instead of buying that more heat instead of buying a quarter ounce or that six pack, support us. Oh damn. All right, the point is support us. Support us. We need all the mental health support. We we need people send us anything. Money, three dollars a month.
RobCome on, people. Oh, that was that was it. All right, I think we've closed. I think we we have. We're gonna get some help. Anyway, guys, not just guys, you know, guys and women, and whoever you, whatever your pronoun is. Oh, more hema. Anyway, hook us, hook us. Can't talk. Leave us a comment. It's been a pleasure. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody. Peace out, ladder.